(No Rbee ?) Match Thread

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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by BiscuitRanger » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:03 pm

We have sufficient quality to finish Lower middle half, but we are a long way off that.

Just by chance we should win the odd game. GA makes us even worse. Fact.
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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by Wegerle » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:06 pm

WA Hoop wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:03 pm
6 pointer lost thanks to a questionable first 11 selection and 14 first half minutes of utter slop.
And don't forget 95 minutes of not being able to score enough goals (again).

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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by Andy_N19 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm

If I were him, I'd resign this evening, I will be at HQ for the Leicester game and I
cannot see anything other than a defeat by 3 clear goals and the crowd getting
particularly ugly come next Saturday evening.
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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by Giorgio » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:53 pm

Andy_N19 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm
If I were him, I'd resign this evening, I will be at HQ for the Leicester game and I
cannot see anything other than a defeat by 3 clear goals and the crowd getting
particularly ugly come next Saturday evening.
....if he really loves this club he has to walk out...and leave space to someone who knows about football and tactics ...

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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by 222gers » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:05 pm

Andy_N19 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm
If I were him, I'd resign this evening, I will be at HQ for the Leicester game and I
cannot see anything other than a defeat by 3 clear goals and the crowd getting
particularly ugly come next Saturday evening.
Some of us are ugly enough already…..

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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by ZENITH R » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:24 pm

The stats from the BBC website make interesting reading ...

We had 61% - that doesn't happen very often
We had 14 shots to their 6
We had one shot on target (the goal) to their 4
We had 9 corners to their 2

So, on the face of it we dominated, and couldn't do anything with that dominance.

I look forward to hearing the views of those who were there.

To me, it's clear that GA can't sort out this mess. I'm sure he will talk about 'the boys' giving it a good go, and us being unlucky, but for me it's about getting the basics right. We are not doing that, and that's down to GA.

It's hard to see us getting anything out of the next 2 games, and our current form is: P 7 W 0 D 2 L 5 F 4 A 14

That is sacking form in anyone's book.
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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by Andy_N19 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:37 pm

222gers wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:05 pm
Andy_N19 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm
If I were him, I'd resign this evening, I will be at HQ for the Leicester game and I
cannot see anything other than a defeat by 3 clear goals and the crowd getting
particularly ugly come next Saturday evening.
Some of us are ugly enough already…..
Come next Saturday night we could all look like Bob Todd!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgYWMijjBt4
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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by Hanuhoff » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:38 pm

I'm not one generally for calling for the manager's head. And I think to blame this mess entirely on GA is a bit unfair, this has been years of mismanagement. However, I really don't see him turning this round and without someone who can do that, we're going down. My only issue with getting rid is I don't know who takes it on and does better? There's always a chance you hit lucky with an unproven manager (and it's either that or a has been, or a never was, let's be honest). But we've not really had much luck with that recently.

This is more a stream of consciousness than any suggestion. I would love to think we could find a gem and move onwards and upwards. And who knows, we might. But the club needs an overhaul, top to bottom. It felt like we were moving in that direction for a while and then panicked after Beale went.

I don't know if there's anything worth reading in there, I'm just quite annoyed at how things have turned out.

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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by Andy_N19 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:39 pm

Oh, and while we're at it, when we get somebody else in, can we ditch this 4 year
contract spiel and do a 'till end of season' thing.

Whilst watching Footy Focus today admired Portsmouth giving a young manager
a chance and it working out, they did their homework though.
John Mousinho would be a perfect appointment be we wouldn't be able to would we.
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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by Nw6ranger » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:31 pm

Not sure how our next manager will sort out our lack of fire power. This has been going on for a number of years now. I was hoping that Armstrong would have had a few more by now . Quess it's still a bit too early for him.

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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by deadendjob » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:34 pm

The defending from Kakay for their second was shocking. How he keeps making the same school boy mistakes consistently and holds his place in the team is beyond me
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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by ZENITH R » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:01 pm

deadendjob wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:34 pm
The defending from Kakay for their second was shocking. How he keeps making the same school boy mistakes consistently and holds his place in the team is beyond me
He's not a defender.

I am interested to hear how Cannon did when he came on.
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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by pindarus » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:09 pm

Have we had more than our share of dreadful managers since the glory years?
Going back to Mullery, Burtenshaw, Houston, Gerry Francis mark 2, Holloway Mark 2, Hart, etc etc.

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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by ZENITH R » Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:58 am

Just watched the highlights ...

A few thoughts/ observations -

Dozzell was on corner duty and did a much better job of it than Chair has in ages. It will be interesting to see Dykes on the end of those corners.
Clarke - Salter carried our biggest goal threat (from the highlights anyway).
Defensively we are so wide open, they don't work as a unit - has this got anything to do with GA being an attacking player, so maybe not the best person to set up the defence? Do we have a defensive coach? If so, maybe that's where we should be making changes.
Our discipline is very poor - 13 games with 28 yellows, 2 reds (OK 1 was rescinded), two suspensions, and we haven't had a single game this season where we haven't had at least one booking. Late in the game Field (just back from suspension) gives away a silly and unnecessary foul in shooting range for them. As it happened they couldn't take advantage, but plenty of teams would have.
There seems to be a lack of leadership on the pitch. I question if Begovic in goal is the best person to be captain, nothing against Begovic, just that he's confined to one area of the pitch.

As for GA's post match comments/ analysis ... Same old, same old. Get on the training pitch and sort it out!
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Re: (No Rbee ?) Match Thread

Post by BiscuitRanger » Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:49 am

I haven't seen the game but I already know that defensively we just run away from the ball. We need to press a bit higher and hunt in packs. If a player goes in for a tackle there needs to be another Rs player trying to get in the space behind or closing down the passing options.
.we run scared, give away too much space out wide and generally don't seem to have a clue about working collectively in defense.
.I like captains to be central.. Goalkeeper or Centre back. They can see a different dimension from the sideline management and can help organise the teams balance better
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