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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by carrotstick » Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:33 pm

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It's a complete impasse.
We can't sack him really as we can't afford to pay him off and no other recognised manager would come here at present anyway.
Could we come to some arrangement with GA and promote someone from within ? Doubtful.
Even so they would have a set of players some of whom will down tools if someone upsets them. Pro footballers ? In name only.
If it's about the money, at what point do you factor in the cost of relegation? That will be huge.

There are four options in my view:

Neil Warnock - he has experience of picking teams up when they are down and out. We are flat on our back. He has done it before, not just once. His age means it would be a very short term appointment, but I believe he would have the desired effect.

John Eustace - knows the club, did a good job at Birmingham, and has something to prove.

Gary Rowett - available, lots of experience at this level did a decent job at Millwall and got them punching above their weight.

AN Other - similar to the Mick Beale appointment (NO Not MICK Beale for lots of reasons. Never, ever again.) Someone, none of us expect, or maybe have even heard of, like Farke and Frank when they went to Norwich and Brentford.

I would imagine Eustace & Rowett will have better options on the table than managing us.
I don't believe Warnock is daft enough to take the job, so I guess we need to look for someone that we've never heard of and perhaps someone that's never heard of us, otherwise he/she won't want the job.

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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by bwhoops » Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:06 pm

This might seem odd to some here but I think the answer is .........................Mick Beale! (Be gentle with me!).

Basically, at this time we are unlikely to attract a decent manager as most would have the sense to stay away. We are tainted. But then Mick Beale is now also tainted stock through lack of integrity. So it would serve both well to get together. I would offer MB a 3-year contract but would also have a clause whereby if he leaves through his own choice in the first two years that he hands back 50% of his received pay.

Unless the club take drastic action soon we are doomed to relegation.

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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by 222gers » Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:09 pm

I spoke to my brother-in-law on the phone earlier. He asked what on earth was happening at QPR. I said I didn't know. “You don't know ?” He said incredulously.
But it's true. We are in the dark. Player power ? Bad management/coaching ? Something behind the scenes ?
I don't think these players are that lacking in skills to produce these awful results.
A combination of all these possibilities maybe.
Certainly I've never known a situation like it.
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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by Andy_N19 » Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:47 pm

bwhoops wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:06 pm
This might seem odd to some here but I think the answer is .........................Mick Beale! (Be gentle with me!).

Basically, at this time we are unlikely to attract a decent manager as most would have the sense to stay away. We are tainted. But then Mick Beale is now also tainted stock through lack of integrity. So it would serve both well to get together. I would offer MB a 3-year contract but would also have a clause whereby if he leaves through his own choice in the first two years that he hands back 50% of his received pay.

Unless the club take drastic action soon we are doomed to relegation.
Don't' worry I share you're concern and won't shoot you down.

Another alternative that would suit our "financial position" would be
to grovellingly ask Warburton to take charge until the season's end, he
has proven competence.
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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by ZENITH R » Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:07 pm

bwhoops wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:06 pm
This might seem odd to some here but I think the answer is .........................Mick Beale! (Be gentle with me!).

Basically, at this time we are unlikely to attract a decent manager as most would have the sense to stay away. We are tainted. But then Mick Beale is now also tainted stock through lack of integrity. So it would serve both well to get together. I would offer MB a 3-year contract but would also have a clause whereby if he leaves through his own choice in the first two years that he hands back 50% of his received pay.

Unless the club take drastic action soon we are doomed to relegation.
Picture the scene ...

Mick Beale returns, and instead of turning things round it stays the same or gets worse.

Things will get really ugly and fast.

Beale's last 5 games in charge at QPR were ...

Birmingham away - lost 2-0
Norwich away - drew 0-0
WBA home - lost 1-0
Huddersfield home - lost 2-1
Coventry away - lost 2-0

I was at Coventry and we looked clueless. Three players - Dieng, Laird and Dickie are no longer at the club, and Richards seems to be a permanent absentee. Apart from that, the starting 11 are all still here, and most of the subs too.

He took Glasgow Rangers to third in a two horse race in Scotland, which is not easy to do.

And lets suppose he is the Messiah (I don't believe it) and he actually makes a difference. He would bugger off at the first better offer that came his way. Right now ... that is all of the teams in the Premier League and 3/4 of the teams in the football league.

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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by Wegerle » Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:31 pm

222gers wrote:
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I don't think these players are that lacking in skills to produce these aweful results.
Even without a manager a player at this level should be able to take a decent corner, free kick or shot between the posts once in a while.

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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by SM » Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:39 pm

Talking to Rowett apparently…
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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by 222gers » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:13 pm

SM wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:39 pm
Talking to Rowett apparently…
What did he say ?
Sorry..

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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by beaglebum » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:28 pm

But what has rowett ever achieved? He's done ok at Millwall but he didnt last too long at his previous jobs did he.

Beale was a good fit for QPR before wolves came in for him and the club went into free fall. So I'd give him a contract until the end of the season and see how he does. Eustace warnock Nathan Jones or Graham Potter would be my choices, the latter 2 of which could use QPR to build up their profiles again.

I feel for Ainsworth though. He'll be sacked after Leicester, win or lose. Maybe he should be sacked now but the club will want him to face the thrashing at the hands of Leicester rather than the new bloke. Sad and worrying times though.

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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by Montag » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:43 pm

Rowett is overated and disloyal. WTF is wrong with the board? : Get NW in till the end of the season then make a long term appointment once we're safe. FFS, I thought when LF left we might have a de-escalation off F***wittery not the reverse!!
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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by Montag » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:47 pm

The fans will never accept Bilge back. He'd get so much stick that he would think he's an extra in Tom Brown's Schooldays. Especially if he didn't turn it round in 20 minutes. In a perverse way I would quite enjoy it being as I'm within shouting distance of the dug-outs. Warnock or bust.
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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by 222gers » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:55 pm

beaglebum wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:28 pm
But what has rowett ever achieved? He's done ok at Millwall but he didnt last too long at his previous jobs did he.

Beale was a good fit for QPR before wolves came in for him and the club went into free fall. So I'd give him a contract until the end of the season and see how he does. Eustace warnock Nathan Jones or Graham Potter would be my choices, the latter 2 of which could use QPR to build up their profiles again.

I feel for Ainsworth though. He'll be sacked after Leicester, win or lose. Maybe he should be sacked now but the club will want him to face the thrashing at the hands of Leicester rather than the new bloke. Sad and worrying times though.
GA seems to have aged about 20 years since he came here. I think he should be put out of his misery.
He managed to stave off relegation last year with a mixture of luck ( QPR having luck ! ), a couple of Dick Turpin results and EFL points deductions but the football is unwatchable and with his Wild Thang personna other teams must be laughing at us when the end result is embarrassing defeats over and over again.
He was a popular player yes, but manager ? Sorry 'fraid not.
It would be better for him and for us if it ends here.

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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by UxbridgeR » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:15 pm

Joey Barton's now available :lol:
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Post by LP » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:06 pm

Whereas I'd love us to think outside the box and go for a "Beale-esque" appointment, I think we have to be pragmatic.

The attitude and mentality that pervades throughout the club filters through to what we see on the pitch. Disinterested owners, a club trying to cheaply bumble its way through a fallow year to ensure compliance with FFP, and a lack of ambition and standards.

We can't keep paying people off, and we don't have enough nous - or a DoF - to identify candidates that other clubs at our level might.

So if you're just trying to get through to the end of the season, because you're quite frankly incapable of doing anything else - it has to be Warnock on a short-term deal.


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Re: New QPR Manager Options

Post by Giorgio » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:29 pm

bwhoops wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:06 pm
This might seem odd to some here but I think the answer is .........................Mick Beale! (Be gentle with me!).
...well at this point...it is like we are drowning in the open sea, with sharks circling around...so whoever is coming to rescue us is welcome....so even him....as much I despised him when he left....we need someone who can take 100% from the players and give them some tactics....I have noted how they look lost when they get the ball....they don't know what to do....

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