New QPR Manager Options

[Libertine]

Good God though Gareth you really do need to sort yourself out. And if you can't, given how much you love this club and all that, I hope you're decent enough to resign and leave the money on the table / in the club.

I guess well probably find that out in the coming weeks if / when the Rotherham and Huddesfield games go south,

I'm not sure it's fair to expect him to walk away without some kind of payoff. He won't have got rich managing Wycombe for 10 years, and he does have a family to look after. I'd imagine it will be a "mutual consent" scenario if / when it comes to that.

It's not really 'fair' that we leave the middle of midfield completely open and free for Blackburn in a home game in a relegation scrap. Or to play a novice left back at right back. Or to let the fans suffer it for 70+ minutes before making any changes.

I'd far prefer it if he can adapt, make changes and make us competitive. But if he can't and he knows full well that we can't afford to sack him without breaching FFP rules, there's only one way he could help the club he loves.

[UxbridgeR]

How about getting in NW as his assistant?. He will get much more input from NW than his current assistants.
Then they don't have to sack GA and fork out. If GA doesn't like it, then he can always quit.

That worked out well for Chris Ramsey. If the club want to sack him, they should have the balls to do so, rather than trying to force his hand by undermining him.

[Libertine]

How about getting in NW as his assistant?. He will get much more input from NW than his current assistants.
Then they don't have to sack GA and fork out. If GA doesn't like it, then he can always quit.

Two managers? Like two captains of a ship or two popes?

It would never, ever happen and wouldn't be any cheaper than sacking Ainsworth and replacing him with Warnock anyway as you'd have two wages to pay rather than one wage and one compensation package.

[LP]

Best solution on the pitch is always to have more than one option for each position, so why not off it?

Can't be arsed with the League Cup? Pop your reserve/upcoming/bombed-out manager on the bench.

Is he not fulfilling his potential? Loan him out to AFC Wimbledon to manage them until the end of the season, and see if he's ready for the step-up when he comes back with that extra experience.

Main man costing you too much money? Get him that lucrative move out to Saudi and bring in the fresh face.

I'm not entirely joking.

[pindarus]

Is there absolutely noone in the club capable of stepping into Ainsworths shoes either as a player manager or caretaker coach?
It's a very low bar, could hardly do a worse job than the current occupant.
Kevin Richardson who stepped up when Hughes got the boot is getting good reports at BC.

[ZENITH R]

Normally, when the manager's ability is being questioned, there is a split in opinions. One camp saying he should go, and the other saying, he should be given more time, has been hampered by injuries etc.

I've not heard or read a single word in support of Gareth continuing from anyone.

Like many, I like him, and loved him as a player. But it's hard to see he is anything other than out of his depth as manager/ head coach. No tactics; no plan B; no evidence of a plan A even; no evidence of anything being worked on in training; in fact nothing to get excited about at all. Throw in a toothless attack and a defence that leaks like a sieve, and its all very grim.

I don't think we the supporters are the only ones who think that Gareth isn't up to it. The recent performances would suggest they are not 'on board' with him. The form of Chris Willock possibly being the best example.

It isn't a case of turning the ship round, the ship is sinking, and drastic, urgent action is needed to prevent that.

It is time for the owners to step up, grow a pair and do the right thing for our club.

[Wegerle]

I don´t like calling for Ainsworth's head as I think he genuinely loves this club and is doing his very best with the very limited players he has got at his disposal.
However his positive ´we have fantatstic players´ attitude hasn´t worked. We don´t have fantastic players and Ainsworth doesn´t have the skill set (yet?) to at least make them hard to beat. I think he has to go, but... whoever comes in still has the same squad of League One/Two players and as previous managers have found out, there is only so much you can get out of them.
Tough times ahead whoever the manager is but I feel that with the current set-up we have no chance of surviving.

[jimjams]

The club clearly felt Eustace was a very promising manager and a potential future number one up until they fell for the Beale spiel. If he didn’t leave on terrible terms then I think he’s probably as good an option as we will find.

Ainsworth can’t stay. There is nothing to suggest he can do this job, I normally lean towards giving managers more time not less but this needs decisive action. He’s flipping clueless, and I’m and tired of him insulting the intelligence of the watching fans trying to suggest there is anything positive at the moment.

Critchley had to go because he clearly wasn't turning things around. Ainsworth wasn't either, but I thought we should stick with him at least through a transfer window, but it isn't working. There is a question of whether the manager is really the issue here, I suppose, but GA is not succeeding, even in areas you might expect him to salvage, like shoring up the defence.

Eustace is a good shout. But there is the double-edged sword of him probably having a very good idea of what's going on at the club. Advantage is that he knows the territory. But the problem is he might know things that lead him to conclude it's too difficult a task. I'm sure he will have other offers.

[Libertine]

Did he 'have to go'?

We don't make much money as a club. It's easier for us to lose the £13m average loss that's acceptable to the EFL than a lot - maybe most - other Championship teams.

In sacking Critchley and I'm sure eventually sacking Ainsworth over the coming weeks / months, we've probably spent over 20% of that EFL allowed budget in sacking managers.

You're talking FIVE players on £10k a week. Another FIVE senior players. Or a couple of million pound players. We've spent that money just on getting managers to leave. It's insane. If we spent that money on paying up players' contracts there would be uproar. It's dead money that makes up a huge % of what we are allowed to spend.

There are very few ways with our limited ability to generate income compared to our competition to gain competitive advantages. They can spend more on wages, they can spend more on transfer fees, we have to be way more efficient on wages and transfers than at least half of the Championship, probably considerable more than half. One way to get some of that back is to not commit dead money into manager turnover which most of the league seems to find way to alluring to resist.

I didn't like Critchley and wanted him to go when he did but as others have pointed out, we've been historically awful in spells for our last four managers. Hoping and praying we land on the perfect candidate that immediately revolutionises that club is foolhardy.

Ultimately, I don't think we ever should have sacked Warburton. I know they really invested under him and he didn't deliver but rather than making him the fall guy they probably should have asked him to have another go at the lesser budget - which would have been considerably more than the one we'll offer to the next poor sap to take the reigns after Ainsworth because it'll be less of that 20%.

We talk a lot about developing footballers to get around FFP rules. I'm all for that... But how about we start developing some coaches so we get out of the perennial search for one we can abide and have ready made replacements for when they do ultimately leave? Right now, in that logic's stead, we'd have to sell an academy player for £2.5m every couple of season purely to just balance the books from manager compensation.

We're in a self fulfilling downward spiral right now. FFS someone make it stop.

[ZENITH R]

Our next three games are Huddersfield and WBA away and Leicester at home.

I would like to think we might nick a point out of the first two, but we could just as easily lose them. Leicester looks a dead rubber - they are in my view head and shoulders the best team in the division, whereas we sadly are among the worst.

I'm wondering at what point the board will decide to let GA go? If we lose the next 3? If we get thrashed by Leicester? We are already setting the wrong kind of records, and one home win in a year tells its own story.

I think GA will go, its just a question of when.

Of course, we should see Reggie Cannon make his debut at Huddersfield. He's a full USA International, so maybe he will help shore up the defence. That said Nico Hamaleinan was a full Finish International. 'Nuff said.

[222gers]

Well that's the international break gone and Gareth still here.
I made some unpleasant remarks about him in another thread ( never post when you've had a few down your neck ).
So maybe for 'oodersfield ….

Begovic
Cannon
JCS
Dunne
Paal
Field
Chair
Colback
Smyth
Dykes
Kolli

That to me, should not be a team doomed to relegation in October.

[Andy_N19]

I've not heard or read a single word in support of Gareth continuing from anyone.

The question isn't whether he should go - most agree he's not up to the job
but under what circumstances do we appoint a viable new 1st team coach.

[UxbridgeR]

Well that's the international break gone and Gareth still here.
I made some unpleasant remarks about him in another thread ( never post when you've had a few down your neck ).
So maybe for 'oodersfield ….

Begovic
Cannon
JCS
Dunne
Paal
Field
Chair
Colback
Smyth
Dykes
Kolli

That to me, should not be a team doomed to relegation in October.

I haven't seen anything from Kolli that would suggest he's anywhere near being able to play at Championship level.
I'm afraid running about enthusiastically and winding up the opposition won't cut it on their own.

Although to be fair, it never did Marc Bircham any harm. Maybe the lad just needs to dye his hair blue

[222gers]

Well that's the international break gone and Gareth still here.
I made some unpleasant remarks about him in another thread ( never post when you've had a few down your neck ).
So maybe for 'oodersfield ….

Begovic
Cannon
JCS
Dunne
Paal
Field
Chair
Colback
Smyth
Dykes
Kolli

That to me, should not be a team doomed to relegation in October.

I haven't seen anything from Kolli that would suggest he's anywhere near being able to play at Championship level.
I'm afraid running about enthusiastically and winding up the opposition won't cut it on their own.

Although to be fair, it never did Marc Bircham any harm. Maybe the lad just needs to dye his hair blue

I guess you're right about Kolli but Armstrong doesn't seem to be able to get his game together and maybe Kelman has yet to stake a claim.

Anyone think we should have had another season from Chris Martin ? Not sure if he's played for Bristol Rovers yet.

[Montag]

Yes, because he's similar to Dykes only better. At the very least he would be good back up. Far more useful than Albert I'm sorry to say.