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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by Satch » Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:13 am

His spell with us was a bit of an outlier. We really need to stop obsessing over ex-players.

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by BristolCity » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:50 am

Satch wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:13 am
His spell with us was a bit of an outlier. We really need to stop obsessing over ex-players.


Mr Stepover was absolutely superb in his first season at City in Division Three when we walked promotion under Steve Cotterill.

Then in the first season up in Div 2 Steve got the push and Luke was played out of position and the performances dipped, he went to QPR, was played in the correct position, and recaptured that great form.

When we bought him it was during a summer when Cotts was given the budget to buy the best players in Div 3 so Luke had clearly been playing well at whoever we bought him from.

Certainly his best prolonged spell was at QPR but he had some cracking seasons before then.

He seems an obvious signing to make IMO. Snap him up.
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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by ZENITH R » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:49 am

Looking at the lack of experience on our bench yesterday, he would be a welcome addition. At 31 he is younger than Charlie was when we resigned him, and four years younger than Albert Adomah right now.

If the money is right, I would snap him up. Afterall, we are not spending millions on new players like some of our rivals in this division have this week.

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by trevsinclair85 » Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:51 am

ZENITH R wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:49 am
Looking at the lack of experience on our bench yesterday, he would be a welcome addition. At 31 he is younger than Charlie was when we resigned him, and four years younger than Albert Adomah right now.

If the money is right, I would snap him up. Afterall, we are not spending millions on new players like some of our rivals in this division have this week.

Beggars cant be choosers.
I agree. Offer him a 1 year deal with a 1 year extension if he plays 20 games or more. Be mad not to bring him in, in a threadbare midfield. Went to Sheff Utd, they got promoted. Went to Luton, they got promoted. Obviously not all down to him, but he’s definitely a player that brings experience of success and works his socks off.

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by Satch » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:35 pm

He may well be younger than Uncs and Austin but neither are shining examples of bringing in veteran players given how quickly both declined. Like wise Johansen who also did quickly and was younger than Freeman.

Tbf if he would actually sign a one year deal for 6k a week then sure but that doesn’t seem realistic and I don’t think he’s worth blowing much budget on.

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by ZENITH R » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:47 pm

Satch wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:35 pm
He may well be younger than Uncs and Austin but neither are shining examples of bringing in veteran players given how quickly both declined. Like wise Johansen who also did quickly and was younger than Freeman.

Tbf if he would actually sign a one year deal for 6k a week then sure but that doesn’t seem realistic and I don’t think he’s worth blowing much budget on.
QPR have a history of signing 'older' players, many of whom did extremely well playing for the R's.

I give you ... Frank McLintock, David Webb, John Hollins, Ray Wilkins, Trevor Francis, Tony Currie, Gareth Ainsworth, Paul Furlong, Clint Hill and Sean Derry as shining examples.

I agree a one year deal with an option for another year based on appearances.
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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by UxbridgeR » Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:10 pm

I think "many" is something of an exaggeration there. The fact that the most recent names that spring to mind are Hill and Derry, who were signed 13 years ago, tells a story. People seem to think we would be getting the Luke Freeman of 2018/19 if we resigned him. The fact is he's never performed anywhere near that level with any consistency in the four seasons since then.
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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by Giorgio » Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:43 pm

....he is a quality player....the kind of player that we are missing and need....

....and reading his name is taking me back memories of my second best moments with the Rs (first was Bobby Zamora's)....

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by UxbridgeR » Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:58 pm

Nostalgia's not what it used to be.....
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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by Andy_N19 » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:58 pm

Satch wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:13 am
His spell with us was a bit of an outlier. We really need to stop obsessing over ex-players.
Agree, he's past it, we need to move on.
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Re: Luke Freeman

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by jimjams » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:35 am

UxbridgeR wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:10 pm
I think "many" is something of an exaggeration there. The fact that the most recent names that spring to mind are Hill and Derry, who were signed 13 years ago, tells a story. People seem to think we would be getting the Luke Freeman of 2018/19 if we resigned him. The fact is he's never performed anywhere near that level with any consistency in the four seasons since then.
I don't like going back to players. It tends to disappoint. The reason we remember them fondly is because they were at their best then. In some ways it would be better to get a journeyman who was useless for us, but better elsewhere and is likely to surprise on the upside.
Still, re: older signings, I'd say Cameron, Wallace and Rangel were not bad recent examples.

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by ANDREW1302 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:24 am

We need to get more players in as the bench is just too weak. Beggars can't be choosers and if he is what we can get and there isn't an alternative then we should get him. It seems we don't have a pot to piss in so everything has to be on a free which limits the market , hence our 'older' signings so far. We have to be realistic. We need two or three more and definitely a striker so we just have to take the best that is available. Who is better than Freeman who might be got? And who says Freeman would come anyway. His wage demands may well be beyond us.

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by Nw6ranger » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:50 am

jimjams wrote:
Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:35 am
UxbridgeR wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:10 pm
I think "many" is something of an exaggeration there. The fact that the most recent names that spring to mind are Hill and Derry, who were signed 13 years ago, tells a story. People seem to think we would be getting the Luke Freeman of 2018/19 if we resigned him. The fact is he's never performed anywhere near that level with any consistency in the four seasons since then.
I don't like going back to players. It tends to disappoint. The reason we remember them fondly is because they were at their best then. In some ways it would be better to get a journeyman who was useless for us, but better elsewhere and is likely to surprise on the upside.
Still, re: older signings, I'd say Cameron, Wallace and Rangel were not bad recent examples.
I still remember the return of Waddock and how it ended.

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Re: Luke Freeman

Post by ZENITH R » Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:38 pm

UxbridgeR wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:10 pm
I think "many" is something of an exaggeration there. The fact that the most recent names that spring to mind are Hill and Derry, who were signed 13 years ago, tells a story. People seem to think we would be getting the Luke Freeman of 2018/19 if we resigned him. The fact is he's never performed anywhere near that level with any consistency in the four seasons since then.
How about Fox, Colback and Cook this season. Older players who so far have done OK so far. Colback even chipped in with a goal at the weekend. So, you don’t have to go back 13 years.

As for Freeman, no one is suggesting we sign him to galvanise our midfield as some kind of midfield maestro. The wages would need to be what we could afford, and initially at least he would be cover or experience for the bench. Saturday showed we lack experience in depth. Signing Freeman would give Ainsworth more options.
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