Slow death

[Montag]

Much as it pains me to say it, I don't think it matters who is in the side. We have a manager that is so far out of his depth that he should be wearing deep sea diving gear rather than cowboy boots and those terrible jeans . I wish it wasn't so, but after watching nearly every home game last season with him in charge it became obvious that he's not up to it. I really wish he was. Hes a genuine guy who loves our club and he's one of us. When we beat Watford I thought we'd turned a corner but it was fool's gold. Even the most limited sides can ground out 0-0 s against superior opposition let alone Blackpool and Wigan. What we witnessed at the end of last season was nothing short of a genuine miracle. We deserved to go down and only loyalty prevented me from putting a ton on us to drop after the Birmingham game. We can play the blame game: Ferdinad, Ramsey, Fernandes, Flabio. But we are where we are. Gareth is left to pick up the pieces without cash or know-how. Sadly, he needs replacing ASAP with someone who knows what they're doing not any of the backroom freeloaders that have helped bring us here but someone proper like NW or MW. In Gareth's defence I would say there are some players whose attitude might be construed as trying to get him the sack
Whether he stays or not we may have to break so called FFP rules to survive otherwise I don't think we will. As Slim Pickens once said "I am depressed"

[222gers]

I'm amazed no club has come in for Chair. Said club will know we are desperate for cash and they could pick him up for chicken feed.
I think the malaise has even got to Illy but clubs will know what he's capable of.
We'd probably get about a million and spend half of it on a centre back from Barrow called Bob Flypaper or something.

[Wegerle]

I'm amazed no club has come in for Chair. Said club will know we are desperate for cash and they could pick him up for chicken feed.
I think the malaise has even got to Illy but clubs will know what he's capable of.
We'd probably get about a million and spend half of it on a centre back from Barrow called Bob Flypaper or something.

I'm not that amazed to be honest.
He had a couple of decent seasons but often lacked the decisive pass or goal. He has skill but didn't have enough end product. Now he has gone completely missing since the Africa cup so I can understand bigger teams than us being hesitant to come in for him. He'll have to prove himself more this season if he is to become interesting for interesting clubs.

[ZENITH R]

I have written it for a number of years now and Uxbridge R has shall we say often told me off for being so pessimistic. Just wonder how you feel now? My story remains the same Fernandes and Ruben will destroy the club unless a miracle occurs. We desperately need them out of any form of decision making so they need to sell but who too? The club is tanking money and heading fast towards league 2 and goodness knows where after that. Are you still confident Uxbridge R? Happy to hear anything to get me out of my melancholy. Maybe a couple of lucky signings? We probably can't afford to sack GA who has not shown in any way he is capable of managing at this level and seemingly has no tactical nous bar up and at em lads , hoof. It looks like he has lost the changing room and the supporters and gives inane interviews which just compound the problem whilst he still thinks 2 in midfield is a good idea. I fear we are lost but please give me some confidence...........the Cardiff score is not helping by the way!

I give you the performances in the last 4 games, and the result yesterday.

[deadendjob]

I have written it for a number of years now and Uxbridge R has shall we say often told me off for being so pessimistic. Just wonder how you feel now? My story remains the same Fernandes and Ruben will destroy the club unless a miracle occurs. We desperately need them out of any form of decision making so they need to sell but who too? The club is tanking money and heading fast towards league 2 and goodness knows where after that. Are you still confident Uxbridge R? Happy to hear anything to get me out of my melancholy. Maybe a couple of lucky signings? We probably can't afford to sack GA who has not shown in any way he is capable of managing at this level and seemingly has no tactical nous bar up and at em lads , hoof. It looks like he has lost the changing room and the supporters and gives inane interviews which just compound the problem whilst he still thinks 2 in midfield is a good idea. I fear we are lost but please give me some confidence...........the Cardiff score is not helping by the way!

I give you the performances in the last 4 games, and the result yesterday.

The results are really the only thing that matters. We picked up points really last season and that was enough to keep us from relegation. It's a long season, we've got very little depth, so this new found optimism from beating two poor teams feels a bit premature.

The hope is really that there are 3 teams worse than us and we can rebuild next year once our FFP restrictions have eased.

[BiscuitRanger]

4pts off of a playoff spot

[Montag]

4pts off of a playoff spot

Love it!!

[qprphilip]

I think we just have to keep our fingers crossed that everything turns out ok. I watch the games on TV, it's not the same as being there I know, but if we can just keep on grinding out results, we may just get lucky. It's impossible to do anything with FFP, which is of our own making. The thing is supporters were not complaining when we were splashing the cash, it could have worked, but it didn't, hence the mess. Hopefully the light at the end of the tunnel might appear, no one know's what may, or may not happen.

[ANDREW1302]

I must agree that GA seems to have really affected attitudes and he is doing as good a job as one could hope for. It does not take away from my central premise that these days one needs an owner who is in touch and involved. Our owners whilst previously generous with their cheques are simply not and Fernandes was an unmitigated disaster. If GA can turn it around and keep us afloat hats off to him and he is doing pretty well so far.I very much hope he does. At the same time i think it was correct that Ferdinand left and i would hope that we can find a new owner/investor who understands how to run a football club. Without that we are really relying on GA to pull off a bit of a miracle! What is the most interesting to me is our previous managers gave little chance to our youngsters and this was generally felt to be because they were't good enough. At present there do seem to be 3 or 4 at least who have the potential and GA is backing them.

[ZENITH R]

I must agree that GA seems to have really affected attitudes and he is doing as good a job as one could hope for. It does not take away from my central premise that these days one needs an owner who is in touch and involved. Our owners whilst previously generous with their cheques are simply not and Fernandes was an unmitigated disaster. If GA can turn it around and keep us afloat hats off to him and he is doing pretty well so far.I very much hope he does. At the same time i think it was correct that Ferdinand left and i would hope that we can find a new owner/investor who understands how to run a football club. Without that we are really relying on GA to pull off a bit of a miracle! What is the most interesting to me is our previous managers gave little chance to our youngsters and this was generally felt to be because they were't good enough. At present there do seem to be 3 or 4 at least who have the potential and GA is backing them.

They are keeping us afloat by paying the bills. There is a massive hole each month that needs to be filled, just to keep the club going. When that situation eases, maybe they might be a little more generous in the transfer market.

As the saying goes ... be careful what you wish for.

[ANDREW1302]

I don't wish for them to stop paying the bills, let us face it they caused them by poor ownership. I do wish though that they realise they are not cut out for club ownership and they bring in someone who is.

[ZENITH R]

I don't wish for them to stop paying the bills, let us face it they caused them by poor ownership. I do wish though that they realise they are not cut out for club ownership and they bring in someone who is.

And if the 'new people' decide the best business model for a club our size is to be in Division 2. Developing players to sell on, with no ambition? Would you be happy with that? That is pretty much where we were for all of our history, up until the mid-60's.

What we as fans see as the 'way forward' is not always the same as that seen by the owners. There are plenty of examples. Personally, I think, lets free ourselves of the FFP constraints, see if the new training facility can produce some rewards, and re-assess in 3-5 years.


I think probably the only way to 'stabalise' our finances would be to gain promotion to the Prem. I know that if we managed to 'fluke' that this season or next, the team is nowhere near strong enough to survive there, let alone compete. Just watch Luton this season as an example. If we go up, our fans would be screaming to spend money, whereas the sensible thing would be to spend only a small fraction. clear the debts, and set ourselves up for being a viable football club.

The parachute payments following the inevitable relegation would then fund a promotion push and progress from there.

[Markybabar]

I don't wish for them to stop paying the bills, let us face it they caused them by poor ownership. I do wish though that they realise they are not cut out for club ownership and they bring in someone who is.

And if the 'new people' decide the best business model for a club our size is to be in Division 2. Developing players to sell on, with no ambition? Would you be happy with that? That is pretty much where we were for all of our history, up until the mid-60's.

What we as fans see as the 'way forward' is not always the same as that seen by the owners. There are plenty of examples. Personally, I think, lets free ourselves of the FFP constraints, see if the new training facility can produce some rewards, and re-assess in 3-5 years.


I think probably the only way to 'stabalise' our finances would be to gain promotion to the Prem. I know that if we managed to 'fluke' that this season or next, the team is nowhere near strong enough to survive there, let alone compete. Just watch Luton this season as an example. If we go up, our fans would be screaming to spend money, whereas the sensible thing would be to spend only a small fraction. clear the debts, and set ourselves up for being a viable football club.

The parachute payments following the inevitable relegation would then fund a promotion push and progress from there.

Nailed it

[222gers]

I don't wish for them to stop paying the bills, let us face it they caused them by poor ownership. I do wish though that they realise they are not cut out for club ownership and they bring in someone who is.

And if the 'new people' decide the best business model for a club our size is to be in Division 2. Developing players to sell on, with no ambition? Would you be happy with that? That is pretty much where we were for all of our history, up until the mid-60's.

What we as fans see as the 'way forward' is not always the same as that seen by the owners. There are plenty of examples. Personally, I think, lets free ourselves of the FFP constraints, see if the new training facility can produce some rewards, and re-assess in 3-5 years.


I think probably the only way to 'stabalise' our finances would be to gain promotion to the Prem. I know that if we managed to 'fluke' that this season or next, the team is nowhere near strong enough to survive there, let alone compete. Just watch Luton this season as an example. If we go up, our fans would be screaming to spend money, whereas the sensible thing would be to spend only a small fraction. clear the debts, and set ourselves up for being a viable football club.

The parachute payments following the inevitable relegation would then fund a promotion push and progress from there.

Nailed it

They introduced the parachute payments because they worried about a drop in attendances.
I thank you.

[ANDREW1302]

I don't think anyone buys into a football to make them less successful. They all look at the potential rewards of prem football. I agree that if GA can stabilize the club at Championship level and we pay of FFP we will be in a much stronger position. Plus i also agree if we did fluke a promotion i would use the additional money to stabilize the club which, of course, is the opposite of what Fernandes did. I am pretty much in agreement with others here and i just hope that Ruben realises he needs someone alongside who knows how to progress a football club. To be fair to him he has bank rolled his mistakes [ we were financially fine when Warnock got us promotion , his decisions caused the mess] but looking forward he should realise what needs to be done to allow him to stop exhausting his bank balance. He doesn't need a man who knows nothing about the business end of running a club ....like Les.