Slow death

[ANDREW1302]

I have written it for a number of years now and Uxbridge R has shall we say often told me off for being so pessimistic. Just wonder how you feel now? My story remains the same Fernandes and Ruben will destroy the club unless a miracle occurs. We desperately need them out of any form of decision making so they need to sell but who too? The club is tanking money and heading fast towards league 2 and goodness knows where after that. Are you still confident Uxbridge R? Happy to hear anything to get me out of my melancholy. Maybe a couple of lucky signings? We probably can't afford to sack GA who has not shown in any way he is capable of managing at this level and seemingly has no tactical nous bar up and at em lads , hoof. It looks like he has lost the changing room and the supporters and gives inane interviews which just compound the problem whilst he still thinks 2 in midfield is a good idea. I fear we are lost but please give me some confidence...........the Cardiff score is not helping by the way!

[Satch]

Fernandes has gone.

Out of interest given the huge restrictions we’re under what would you want to see different owners do. Ignore past mistakes what should they be doing differently?

[Rbee]

As Satch says Fernandes has gone. Fernandes is the root of our current problems.

Our owners are nice people, our owners are wealthy people, our owners are not football people. Our owners appointed a Director of Football to run the football side of the football club for them. Looking at the state of Queens Park Rangers Football Club today you have to say that The Director of Football did not do a very good job although he was hampered by a majority shareholder who thought he was a football person but clearly wasn't.

Both have now gone. We are left with a football club failing at all levels lacking structure, direction and leadership.

A few weeks ago I thought that breaking the Profit and Sustainabilty Regulatations was the way to go, anything to avoid relegation, but now I think we have to reset, employ a wise old head as Director of Football who can hopefully turn the club upside down and get us moving forward once again. We have to accept that the starting point might be from Division One but with a superb training facility and new chapters to write.

[ANDREW1302]

Satch i think i agree with Rbee. We need a really good DOF steeped in football who knows the job and who to acquire. We need a couple of players bought in who could make a difference. A centre back, someone to replace Dozey and someone fast to serve Dykes and maybe then we have a chance if we play to our strengths. My fear is GA will continue with his style which our best players are not suited to. Playing 2 in midfield seems a disaster time and time again and i fear GA has lost the dressing room. So a new DOF who watches the next say 3 games and makes a decision on GA.
Apart from a decent DOF i think Ruben should sell a stake for nothing to someone who knows sports clubs . With that in place Ruben in the background maybe we can do something. If not and Ruben carries on being a clueless nice man i am afraid i go back to my belief of the last 5 years plus ultimately we will not survive.

[BiscuitRanger]

There are 45 more league games to go. Don't panic.... yet

[Mr Beef]

Fernandes has gone.

Out of interest given the huge restrictions we’re under what would you want to see different owners do. Ignore past mistakes what should they be doing differently?

I'd say getting in a DOF and sticking to a brief rather than chopping and changing to suit whatever short-term issue they feel needs resolving would be a start. I'd also suggest that they need to review the development of young players at QPR. Very little of any real quality seems to come through to the first team.

[222gers]

I don't know….it seems to me the stench of decay has seeped into all aspects of how this club is run.
Apart from the collapse from promotion hopefuls to Long John Silver impersonaters in the space of a year, the club is run like Fred Karno's army.
The only aspect I can say is laudable is the community involvement.
One of the worst is treating us loyal supporters as cretins with the glib rubbish on the website and not trusting us enough to tell us what's really going on behind the scenes.

[ZENITH R]

Money is the root of all evil.

There is a Youtube video currently doing the rounds called: 'How NOT to run a Premier League football club'. It's all about us. Have a watch and think about the numbers involved, and how long it will take to get free of that mess.

While mistakes have clearly been made in recent years, it is the absolute shower that took place 10-15 years ago that has laid the foundations for the trouble we are in today.

We were paying players £70-100k a week! That's QPR who cant fit 20,000 people into their cramped outdated stadium.

For those who have laid all of our woes at Les Ferdinand's door. He doesn't get a mention because this all happened before he was appointed.

It will take a few years more for us to get back on an even keel, and until then, what you see is what you'll get.

Tighten your seat belts because this bumpy ride is far from over.

[UxbridgeR]

I have written it for a number of years now and Uxbridge R has shall we say often told me off for being so pessimistic. Just wonder how you feel now? My story remains the same Fernandes and Ruben will destroy the club unless a miracle occurs. We desperately need them out of any form of decision making so they need to sell but who too? The club is tanking money and heading fast towards league 2 and goodness knows where after that. Are you still confident Uxbridge R? Happy to hear anything to get me out of my melancholy. Maybe a couple of lucky signings? We probably can't afford to sack GA who has not shown in any way he is capable of managing at this level and seemingly has no tactical nous bar up and at em lads , hoof. It looks like he has lost the changing room and the supporters and gives inane interviews which just compound the problem whilst he still thinks 2 in midfield is a good idea. I fear we are lost but please give me some confidence...........the Cardiff score is not helping by the way!

Hello darkness, my old friend.

If we're doing the "I was right all along" thing (and apparently we are), I'll just point out that I was calling out Fernandes and the financial insanity of his approach back in 2011 when we were signing the likes of Barton and SWP, and when most fans thought the sun shone out of his rear end and would have happily have carried him on their shoulders from LR to the Conningham / Crown & Sceptre / White Horse so he could buy them a free pint. I've never once suggested the owners were doing a good job, although I have cut them some slack in recent years, as they've kept putting their money into the club when many might have walked away. They're still doing that, and the moment they stop is when the shit really will hit the fan. Those who apparently think things can't get any worse than they are now will be in for a seismic shock. I do wonder what the owners' plan is, particularly now that Fernandes has gone, and some clarity in that regard would be helpful. I don't think a failing team and a disintegrating club helps anyone, and I don't buy the idea that they're deliberately running it into the ground. If that were the case, I think it would have happened after we were hit with the FFP fine.

I've taken issue in the past with your negativity about the team and the manager(s), which has been a perennial feature here over the years. You've been predicting administration and the imminent death of the club for over a decade, and we've never come close to it. You've predicted relegation on a regular basis, and until last season, we were never anywhere near that either.

That we will be this year is obvious. Critchley's sacking was kneejerk cowardice, and Ainsworth's populist appointment another attempt to deflect criticism away from those running the club. It hasn't done so for long, and judging by the mood at Watford on Saturday, things will soon get very ugly indeed.

All of that said, there are 45 games to go, and we only need to finish above three teams to stay in the division. I personally don't think we can do it playing the way we do under this manager, but hopefully I'll be proved wrong, or (more likely) he will be replaced quite quickly. If we can stay up this year, there will be a a little more P&S headroom in the budget, and maybe we can start heading back in the right direction.

I'll be at Cardiff anyway, although definitely more in hope than expectation after Saturday's abysmal showing.

[Spencer]

Millwall can recruit players , on a shoe string with less staff than us

Romain Esse , 18 comes on and scores
Aidomo Emakhu, ex Shamrock Rovers
Kevin Nesbit Ex Hibs ( 26)
Zian Flemming

All look like good players.... played well V Middlesborough ( according to my Millwall mates )

3 Months since end of last season... we recruit

Morgan Fox to stiffen our defence

[UxbridgeR]

Flemming cost £1.7M and Nisbet £2M. That's not really a shoe-string. It remains to be seen whether or not the other two will turn out to be good enough to feature regularly in the Championship.

I mean there's no question that Millwall are a similar size club to us who have largely outperformed us in recent years, but there's no way we could have afforded Nisbet this summer, and probably not Flemming last year either.

[Spencer]

Flemming cost £1.7M and Nisbet £2M. That's not really a shoe-string. It remains to be seen whether or not the other two will turn out to be good enough to feature regularly in the Championship.

I mean there's no question that Millwall are a similar size club to us who have largely outperformed us in recent years, but there's no way we could have afforded Nisbet this summer, and probably not Flemming last year either.

I know , I should have stopped after the first two names ....

I think what i was trying to also say was... other clubs are making better use of money they spend .
Dozzell transfer comes to mind . Mcauley Bonne

I know we are restricted by the FFP - but how after 3 months do we manage to end up with Morgan Fox ( not his fault).
If this is the best we can do, then i fear for us this season.

Jack Colback will help , and when back, Dunne... , until then we are going to get spanked

[UxbridgeR]

Flemming cost £1.7M and Nisbet £2M. That's not really a shoe-string. It remains to be seen whether or not the other two will turn out to be good enough to feature regularly in the Championship.

I mean there's no question that Millwall are a similar size club to us who have largely outperformed us in recent years, but there's no way we could have afforded Nisbet this summer, and probably not Flemming last year either.

I know , I should have stopped after the first two names ....

I think what i was trying to also say was... other clubs are making better use of money they spend .
Dozzell transfer comes to mind . Mcauley Bonne

I know we are restricted by the FFP - but how after 3 months do we manage to end up with Morgan Fox ( not his fault).
If this is the best we can do, then i fear for us this season.

Jack Colback will help , and when back, Dunne... , until then we are going to get spanked

Yeah, I totally agree. Flemming was a great signing for Millwall, and the kind you can't imagine us ever making. Pretty jealous they got Joe Bryan on a free as well.

[ANDREW1302]

No Uxbridge R not saying i am showing i am /will be right just needing some hope! The club may well survive but i guess it has been my reading of the way it has been run that conjours up we may not! We really need someone who knows how to run a football/sports club on board. The success of Millwall, Brighton, Brentford etc has been down to the owners and with apologies for my repetition our demise is down to clueless people at the top. I just hope Ruben decides he is not the man for this and also doesn't think the way out is to put us into administration.

[Nw6ranger]

Flemming cost £1.7M and Nisbet £2M. That's not really a shoe-string. It remains to be seen whether or not the other two will turn out to be good enough to feature regularly in the Championship.

I mean there's no question that Millwall are a similar size club to us who have largely outperformed us in recent years, but there's no way we could have afforded Nisbet this summer, and probably not Flemming last year either.

I know , I should have stopped after the first two names ....

I think what i was trying to also say was... other clubs are making better use of money they spend .
Dozzell transfer comes to mind . Mcauley Bonne

I know we are restricted by the FFP - but how after 3 months do we manage to end up with Morgan Fox ( not his fault).
If this is the best we can do, then i fear for us this season.

Jack Colback will help , and when back, Dunne... , until then we are going to get spanked

I think when Dunne and Colback are both back in the team we will still get spanked, just not so hard that it stings.