Bleak Future

[Rbee]

I sat in a meeting where that was said. I can say no more than that. What is for sure is the need to cut costs by 30%.

Not disbelieving you Andrew but I am very surprised by this.

Profit and Sustainability runs on a three year cycle

Last season we went for it with Warburton and failed so it was obvious that the next two seasons would be frugal for us so we could complete the three year cycle without breaking the rules.

Think what you like about Lee Hoos but he is a smart cookie and he would have been well aware that we would be operating on a reduced budget for this and next season.

So that reduced budget should have been spread over two seasons not panic stations, cut costs by 30% next season.

I can only think that the club were once again hopeful of a promotion this season under Beale and recruited with that in mind. Another failure.

The only way we can cut costs by 30% next season is by cancelling players contracts, many players, and recruiting cheap battlers from the divisions below, Gareth has already stated that he is aware of a few. We will become a Wycombe type team!

As for the owners, I think Fernandes has already made his mind up to quit, slowly reducing his shareholding. Mittal won't give a damn, Ruben who knows and the new American guy, who knows. Being a London club you would hope that there would be some interest out there.

[222gers]

Funny how a single win can change the complexion of things….
If we stay up, which looks very likely after a gutsy win like today, we can look forward to the first proper season in three years. A glance at the Prem table suggests three “bigger” than normal clubs may be relegated. This will keep the scavengers of Sky away from us and we will have a plethora of Saturday KOs.
Yes, we'll still be skint but a welcome normal season in prospect after the ravages of the World Cup, Sky and Covid.

[Montag]

As great as today was, the structure of coaching, recruitment and youth development is very poor and must be changed in the close season. Radically.

[Markybabar]

I think it's clear and obvious for all to see that we are in freefall.

The Watford result flattered to deceive and the bleak future I speak of is alive and well.

Today was yet another absolutely pathetic performance from players that are simply not fit to wear the shirt. We are by far and away the worst team in our league. Bar None.

Absolute disgrace from top to bottom and somehow, I don't think we are done here and think it's going to get even worse.

We have got to hope there are 3 worst sides come May but I just don't think there will be. League 1 is calling.

[Wegerle]

And to honest, if we do go down, I can even see us struggle in L1. We really are that bad at the moment.
I'm just hoping we can hang on and have a TOTAL rebuild this summer.

[trevsinclair85]

If we go down, we’ll go out of business. The club has been completely mismanaged. Started with the terrible overspending on over the hill crocks, and it’s ended with the sacking of Warburton. He was a safe bet, working WONDERS with the financial restrictions placed upon him by this inept board.

I’m sorry to say it, so so sorry to say it, but I think we are doomed, because of the debt these CRETINS have put us in, and when we go down, that’s it. I fear we will have to go down the Wilmbledon route.

My heart is truly broken, and I am absolutely livid.

These absolute morons have played Russian roulette with my club and lost. And we will have to pick it all up.

Disgrace.

[whittonhoop]

Totally agree, we will struggle in League 1, if we stay up (and I think we should still) then next season will be really tough again.

Should we go down, a lot of change in players and c. 20 years on from when it last happened, we are a much less attractive place for League 1 players to come

[Andy_N19]

If we go down, we’ll go out of business. The club has been completely mismanaged. Started with the terrible overspending on over the hill crocks, and it’s ended with the sacking of Warburton. He was a safe bet, working WONDERS with the financial restrictions placed upon him by this inept board.

I’m sorry to say it, so so sorry to say it, but I think we are doomed, because of the debt these CRETINS have put us in, and when we go down, that’s it. I fear we will have to go down the Wilmbledon route.

My heart is truly broken, and I am absolutely livid.

These absolute morons have played Russian roulette with my club and lost. And we will have to pick it all up.

Disgrace.

[UxbridgeR]

If we go down, we’ll go out of business. The club has been completely mismanaged. Started with the terrible overspending on over the hill crocks, and it’s ended with the sacking of Warburton. He was a safe bet, working WONDERS with the financial restrictions placed upon him by this inept board.

I’m sorry to say it, so so sorry to say it, but I think we are doomed, because of the debt these CRETINS have put us in, and when we go down, that’s it. I fear we will have to go down the Wilmbledon route.

My heart is truly broken, and I am absolutely livid.

These absolute morons have played Russian roulette with my club and lost. And we will have to pick it all up.

Disgrace.

Why would we go out of business ? The owners have regularly converted debt into equity for years now, and have given no indication that they intend to stop doing so. Do you think other Championship or EFL clubs are debt free ? You can justifiably criticise the owners for all sorts of things, but they have stuck around and continue to put their hands in their pockets to keep the club ticking over. I’d love to know what the geniuses singing “sack the board” today think would happen were their wish to come true. I guarantee things would get infinitely worse very quickly.

[pindarus]

If we go down we will be a division 1 team with 3 premier league teams within 5 miles. Given that we are no further forward with the Linford Christie development we really will have to look at a rebirth outside Hammersmith.

[Montag]

Teflon Les anyone? I could've done a better job.

[Albert Steptoe]

Teflon Les anyone? I could've done a better job.

I did warn you about the incompetent DoF but the happy clappers on here all knew better. When one thinks of how much money the club is spending on senior executives and coaches, it defies belief that you get performances like Tuesday or yesterday. A clown show.

[beaglebum]

If we go down, we’ll go out of business. The club has been completely mismanaged. Started with the terrible overspending on over the hill crocks, and it’s ended with the sacking of Warburton. He was a safe bet, working WONDERS with the financial restrictions placed upon him by this inept board.

I’m sorry to say it, so so sorry to say it, but I think we are doomed, because of the debt these CRETINS have put us in, and when we go down, that’s it. I fear we will have to go down the Wilmbledon route.

My heart is truly broken, and I am absolutely livid.

These absolute morons have played Russian roulette with my club and lost. And we will have to pick it all up.

Disgrace.

Why would we go out of business ? The owners have regularly converted debt into equity for years now, and have given no indication that they intend to stop doing so. Do you think other Championship or EFL clubs are debt free ? You can justifiably criticise the owners for all sorts of things, but they have stuck around and continue to put their hands in their pockets to keep the club ticking over. I’d love to know what the geniuses singing “sack the board” today think would happen were their wish to come true. I guarantee things would get infinitely worse very quickly.

I have to agree as off the pitch it doesnt seem anywhere near as bad as other clubs - Reading/Birmingham /Sheffield utd/Blackburn come to mind. All potentially could be handed fines or points deductions. On the pitch it's been a disaster but i think we all have to accept that the QPR of 2023 is a little club with a smaller fanbase than most others at this level and doing well to keep at the level we are. Mick Beale truly f****d up our season, both with his timings and the players he recruited. The board cant be blamed for that. Look at the money teams like Boro have spent. We cant compete with them so i truly believe the only way we can get out of this mess is for everyone to get behind the club, and for those who go regularly to suck that ball over the goal line and to will Dunne and Dickie to get their feet in and clear that ball whenever its in our box. And be there for the team from the first to the last

U Rsssss

[ZENITH R]

If we go down, we’ll go out of business. The club has been completely mismanaged. Started with the terrible overspending on over the hill crocks, and it’s ended with the sacking of Warburton. He was a safe bet, working WONDERS with the financial restrictions placed upon him by this inept board.

I’m sorry to say it, so so sorry to say it, but I think we are doomed, because of the debt these CRETINS have put us in, and when we go down, that’s it. I fear we will have to go down the Wilmbledon route.

My heart is truly broken, and I am absolutely livid.

These absolute morons have played Russian roulette with my club and lost. And we will have to pick it all up.

Disgrace.

And there you have it. Being a safe bet is just not good enough for many QPR fans. My view is that MW was a decent Championship manger, but not one likely to get you promoted. I fully understand why we let him go, and after the collapse last spring and our fall down the table many were calling for him to be replaced as well. On the face of it Mick Beale was a good shout. None of us could have known he would crap on the club, particularly when he gave that speech about loyalty. I don't think we can underestimate the damage MB did to our club this season, he royally screwed us over.

He brought a number of players to the club, many according to him, he had been tracking for a while or who he knew from elsewhere. They have been a huge disappointment. It's easy to blame LF for these failures, but the manager was recommending them, and when we were top of the table in October, it seemed sound judgement all round. No calls to sack the board or DoF then.

Five loans -

Laird (has missed 9 games through injury this season and hasn't played since we lost to Sunderland) doesn't look like he wants to be here.
Roberts (missed 16 games through injury before returning to Leeds)
Richards (missed 18 games through injury - only started 1 game ((and was subbed)) and been a sub 12 times) apparently we are buying him in the summer
Iroegbunam the one bright-ish spot had some decent games but often fades in the second half. He has so far avoided being injured.
Lowe - brought in by Critchley (looked great the first couple of games, but now looks lost)

Plus

Paal a good start, but has missed 6 games through injury including the last 4
Balogun looked a decent player (has missed 20 games through injury - not played since November)
Clarke-Salter has missed 24 games through injury - hasn't played since the start of last month.

Throw in:

Willock (one of our best players) Has missed 15 games, not played since we lost to Millwall.
Chair (the other jewel in our crown) has missed the last 4 games with injury.

So, it's easy to understand why this season has turned into a total pile of poo. Of course it is the QPR way to apportion blame, and lots are doing that, with the board the obvious target. For me, the man to be angry with is Michael Beale.

Bottom line, it's just one season, and as long as we avoid relegation we can go again from scratch in August. The loans can return to their parent clubs (would we want any of them to stay? NO!!!) We can let our injured players recover, and formulate a new strategy.

Something happened last night that was very telling. Burnley who are absolutely running away with this division got well and truly spanked by Man City. The gap between the Premiership and the Championship is huge, and ultimately that is about money.

Right now, we don't have a lot, and that is the crux of our problem.

The starting point my post was about promotion, the only way we will significantly put any money in the coffers.

[Montag]

There is no doubt that we have had an appalling injury roll-call this season but this seems to be more or less normal here. But there is no doubt that LF and his set-up are largely to blame for our plight. I am sure he's worked hard and done his absolute best but there have been so many poor, poor decisions.

I'm sure like many on here, I agreed broadly with the development and buy and sell idea introduced nearly a decade ago. LF and CR were to be the masterminds of this strategy but the truth is the only progress and stability made at QPR since 2015 came in the form of experienced managers like Ollie and MW. In truth, we should've appointed an experienced manager and tried a yoyo to generate the dosh needed for the project.

With Ollie came Penrice who has an eye for a bargain: so we had Eze, Freeman and BOS among others. I believe given a bit of time Ollie would've made a go of it like he did before, but no, let's bring in brolly man. I will always remember him for the experience of sitting in the away end at West Brom that season. Humiliating.

Then finally we bring in a capable, stable manager, Mark Warburton who would've been my choice in 2015 when we were relegated when LF appointed his mate who had managed ONE home win in half the previous season. ONE WIN. So Warburton didn't have the money to spend that he would've in 2015. He did a great job considering the finances and covid. I know the end of last season was a crushing disappointment but removing him was a ghastly mistake. I can't remember our crowd protesting a sacking ever before? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Frankly, I will have considerable difficulty renewing my ST if LF is still at QPR. He is by any measurement along with his "development" team an abject failure. It's an indefensible record.

I just hope we can scrape the couple of wins we need to survive and like you say Zen, go again next season but without the millstone that is LF and his staff.