Bleak Future

[ANDREW1302]

SM there was a financial meeting last week. Costs need to be cut by 30% next year regardless.That is the order from the top. If we stay up next year will be very tough. We will need to sign well so if Les keeps his job that is not going to happen as in the summer anyone who is anyone will be sold. We will need to rely on Les's project of youth which doesn't exist. Downside view the owners will finally wake up to the fact they hired a failure as DOF who has kept his job and with a possible FFP fine down the road will throw in the towel as frankly 2m a month for a league 1 club going nowhere is not worth it. The ground is owned in a separate company and after 2 years will get planning and be sold for 40m for resi. Upside is Les and his team of failures is shown the door , Ainsworth signs some hard workers who can stay fit, we manage to survive in the Championship and slowly rebuild in 5 years. But the reality to start from is that costs are to be cut by 30% next year. You can pick whichever future you think realistic.

[UxbridgeR]

There's an awful lot of catastrophising going around at the moment. Talk of oblivion and the club dying is a little premature to put it mildly. We lose money every year, but so does almost every other club in the EFL, and plenty in the PL too. There are a number of clubs in the Championship whose finances are in worse shape than ours, and whose owners' motives are highly questionable.
For all the mistakes that ours have made, they keep funding the club every year without complaint, and have given no indication of that changing any time soon. If and when they do, that would be the time to really worry.

But If the worst happens and we do drop into L1, we'll have to deal with it, as we did 20 years ago. It might indeed take years to come back, but it won't be the end of the world.

[UxbridgeR]

This is pretty grim..

And as mere fans we are completely impotent. People have spoken of protests outside the ground, not renewing STs, booing/cheering the players on/off the pitch - but we can only look on as the club dies. And we can't even hold its hand as it goes under.

The idea of protests at this stage of the season is a stupid idea. We have just got GA in and he needs all the fans help and SUPPORT for his players that he can get whilst he turns things around. The time for any protest is when we are mathematically doomed to relegation; and not before.

I still think that relegation can be avoided but it needs everyone to pull together - fans included. If the players are hounded by the fans it isn't going to help one little bit.

[qprphilip]

Like a lot of others on here I've been supporting since the mid fifties. Seen good owners, bad owners, but whatever you say about the present one's, they have backed the club. Now is not the time to start getting on peoples back, that achieves nothing. I know it's difficult seeing the team play like this but you just have to give them your full support, even if you feel like booing, or having a rant at a player, it does nothing. It's said they don't care, I'm sure they all do. Confidence must be shot to bits, no one can see where the next point is coming from, let alone three, we will turn the corner, you have to think that.

[WA Hoop]

As much as I concur with those calling for solidarity between fans & players, I can't help equating our 'hunt for points' mission with the 'Basil the Rat' episode of Fawlty Towers...

Well, let's have a little Basil hunt, shall we?
And then we'll deal with the sackings later on.

[BristolCity]

As much as I concur with those calling for solidarity between fans & players, I can't help equating our 'hunt for points' mission with the 'Basil the Rat' episode of Fawlty Towers...

Well, let's have a little Basil hunt, shall we?
And then we'll deal with the sackings later on.

What an absolutely brilliant analogy!

Round of applause to that man.

[patrickqpr]

SM there was a financial meeting last week. Costs need to be cut by 30% next year regardless.That is the order from the top. If we stay up next year will be very tough. We will need to sign well so if Les keeps his job that is not going to happen as in the summer anyone who is anyone will be sold. We will need to rely on Les's project of youth which doesn't exist. Downside view the owners will finally wake up to the fact they hired a failure as DOF who has kept his job and with a possible FFP fine down the road will throw in the towel as frankly 2m a month for a league 1 club going nowhere is not worth it. The ground is owned in a separate company and after 2 years will get planning and be sold for 40m for resi. Upside is Les and his team of failures is shown the door , Ainsworth signs some hard workers who can stay fit, we manage to survive in the Championship and slowly rebuild in 5 years. But the reality to start from is that costs are to be cut by 30% next year. You can pick whichever future you think realistic.

Andrew I see nothing in here that backs up your statement that you heard the owners are considering selling up. It sounds more like that in your opinion they are considering selling up?

[ANDREW1302]

I sat in a meeting where that was said. I can say no more than that. What is for sure is the need to cut costs by 30%.

[UxbridgeR]

It's not the first time in recent years that you've predicted armageddon for the club, so you'll understand a little scepticism on that front. That said, a target of a 30% reduction in costs sounds entirely believable.

[222gers]

It's not the first time in recent years that you've predicted armageddon for the club, so you'll understand a little scepticism on that front. That said, a target of a 30% reduction in costs sounds entirely believable.

Armageddon outa here…..

Weather forecast for Saturday - cold, rainy and windy. That's going to put a few of our crocks off.

[ANDREW1302]

That is true Uxbridge R! It has been a slow burn rather than at the speed i imagined. I think when i started it was moaning about Fernandes wasting our resources in the Premier league so in my favour the collapse has been happening but slowly. Personally i now think on the positive side there is a realisation we are not best served by taking on notes and players with 'style'. Our budget has to be spent on picking up League 1 and 2 players with potential and desire rather than Premier League cast offs. Indeed Ainsworth has been saying that recently. If we can get a few players back, stay up and say goodbye to whoever has been promoting our signings of the recent past i could well be wrong. After 55 years of support i hope so! Maybe i need to be a bit more glass half full but i do react when i see the money spent on such as Bonne and the constant signing of sicknotes.

[deadendjob]

The club had a vision/opinion around loan players which seems to have gone out the window under PBBC. To-ne himself said he didn't like the idea of training other clubs players, who rarely give 100% because they are going to leave at the end of the season.
Appreciate FFP was a concern, but why we've changed our position on loans to filling the maximum quota is beyond me. It's certainly going to bite us next season - irrespective of what league were in.

[Montag]

Come the close season, Les and his entire team need to be shat out. They have patently failed on every level. From what has been said on here and other sites they were instrumental in removing MW (allegedly). Great move. From now on, we are going to have to sign tough, hard players who can win the ball. If we have to be the second coming of Wimbledon to be successful then that is what has to happen at least in the short term. It's time to end the BS and accept that the "plan" has failed. QPR must survive and we must prevail.

[WA Hoop]

As much as I concur with those calling for solidarity between fans & players, I can't help equating our 'hunt for points' mission with the 'Basil the Rat' episode of Fawlty Towers...

Well, let's have a little Basil hunt, shall we?
And then we'll deal with the sackings later on.

What an absolutely brilliant analogy!

Round of applause to that man.

Sir, you are too kind but thanks anyway.

[Nw6ranger]

Come the close season, Les and his entire team need to be shat out. They have patently failed on every level. From what has been said on here and other sites they were instrumental in removing MW (allegedly). Great move. From now on, we are going to have to sign tough, hard players who can win the ball. If we have to be the second coming of Wimbledon to be successful then that is what has to happen at least in the short term. It's time to end the BS and accept that the "plan" has failed. QPR must survive and we must prevail.

I think we do better when we have a team full of grafters and just one or two players with that special skillful talent.