Here we go again

All topics allowed. Board rules apply.

Moderators: ZENITH R, qprdotorgadmin, nige101uk, willesdenr, Virginia_R

Post Reply
QPR_John
Level 5 dot.orger
Level 5 dot.orger
Posts: 6949
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:35 pm
Location: Reading

Here we go again

Post by QPR_John » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:26 am

Giovanni van Bronckhorst sacked by Rangers

User avatar
Systemsguy
Level 5 dot.orger
Level 5 dot.orger
Posts: 5822
Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:19 pm

Re: Here we go again

Post by Systemsguy » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:44 am

Take the million.... :wink:
2023/2024.... Keep Calm, no matter the season, we'll follow our team.....

User avatar
Montag
Level 5 dot.orger
Level 5 dot.orger
Posts: 5598
Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:26 pm

Re: Here we go again

Post by Montag » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:54 pm

Isn't it, though?
"Go, muster men: My council is my shield ; We must be brief, when traitors brave the field."
Richard III, Act IV, W. Shakespeare

IJM
Level 2 dot.orger
Level 2 dot.orger
Posts: 737
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:21 pm
Location: Northamptonshire

Re: Here we go again

Post by IJM » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:32 pm

Systemsguy wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:44 am
Take the million.... :wink:
Agreed. We can't continually have this doubt every time a 'bigger' job vacancy presents itself. First Wolves, then Vi!!a, now Glasgow Rangers, it must be unsettling for the players and I know it is for the fans too.

Let's face it our results have been very disappointing since Beale was first linked with the Wolves job and it must be having a negative effect on everyone connected to QPR.

So in summary I wish this matter is put to bed once and for all because we can't continually have this will he/won't he stay.

User avatar
ZENITH R
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 10092
Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:40 pm
Location: North Derbyshire

Re: Here we go again

Post by ZENITH R » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:29 am

IJM wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:32 pm
Systemsguy wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:44 am
Take the million.... :wink:
Agreed. We can't continually have this doubt every time a 'bigger' job vacancy presents itself. First Wolves, then Vi!!a, now Glasgow Rangers, it must be unsettling for the players and I know it is for the fans too.

Let's face it our results have been very disappointing since Beale was first linked with the Wolves job and it must be having a negative effect on everyone connected to QPR.

So in summary I wish this matter is put to bed once and for all because we can't continually have this will he/won't he stay.
TBF ... He hasn't shown the slightest interest in any of those jobs. Wolves made an approach which he rejected straight away - wouldn't even talk to them (what more do you want?) All the rest is pure press speculation. So, you are suggesting we dump him because some toerag journo links him with a job based on absolutely nothing.

MB showed some integrity, I think the least we can do is show him some back.
Saturday 9th November 1968: QPR V Burnley in the First Division - I saw the Hoops for the first time and my obsession began!

Remember:
Growing old is inevitable.
Growing up is optional.

User avatar
UxbridgeR
dot.org legend
dot.org legend
Posts: 11211
Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:45 pm

Re: Here we go again

Post by UxbridgeR » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:52 am

As Zenith says above, there's no way Beale or QPR can control media speculation about what might happen. Personally, I'm not too bothered either way, as long as it happens quickly. If he stays, all well and good. If he doesn't, we have a few weeks with no games scheduled in which to bring in a replacement, and we bank £1M+ (allegedly) for someone who cost nothing and has been here barely six months. Not the end of the world by any means.
Are headphones getting bigger, or are idiots getting smaller ?

User avatar
willo
Level 5 dot.orger
Level 5 dot.orger
Posts: 6664
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:21 am
Location: Greenford

Re: Here we go again

Post by willo » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:53 pm

Beale may not be able to control it but he could quash it very quickly. He doesn't appear to have learned much from the Wolves situation IMHO.

User avatar
Mr Beef
Level 5 dot.orger
Level 5 dot.orger
Posts: 8131
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:37 pm

Re: Here we go again

Post by Mr Beef » Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:50 pm

The comments in the Glasgow Times below seemed liked odd comments to make about a club where the manager was under pressure. Quite naive after the Wolves situation too. He was also up at the Rangers game the day after the Birmingham match, and out drinking with fans after the game. Again, naive at best. Perhaps there's nothing in this, but Ferdinand's comments yesterday suggest that perhaps the club are getting a little tired of this.

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/23 ... tle-claim/

Glasgow Times

Michael Beale makes Rangers 'definitely beaten Celtic' title claim
11th November

MICHAEL BEALE reckons he and Steven Gerrard would have guided Rangers to the title if they had remained at the club.

The pair departed Ibrox for Aston Villa back in November last year as they fulfilled their Premier League dreams.

Since then Beale has become Queens Park Rangers manager and Gerrard has been axed as Villa boss.

It is changed days for the duo, but Beale reckons there would have been more success in Govan had Gerrard stuck around.

“What a football club,” he told BT's Currie Club. “And what a group of people that are around it and support it. It’s an institution. Anybody who was part of our staff who had the opportunity to go back there, they would in the future. It had a massive hold on us.

"Do I think we could have taken it forward? I definitely think we would have won the league. When we left, we were still four points in front. There is no way they (Celtic) would have come past us.

“We hadn’t lost in eight or nine Old Firms (it was actually seven). The next one was maybe in the post because in a two-horse competition anyone can win in any derby. But the games weren’t particularly close. They might have been in the scoreline but when you were in the stadium, we were very much in control of every game.

“What I would say is that the manager who went in (Postecoglou) is a very, very good manager and a very good coach. They were going to improve, but so were we. We weren’t planning on standing still. We’d evolved subtly over time. The mentality at the time was no one was stopping us.”

luke_mullet
Level 3 dot.orger
Level 3 dot.orger
Posts: 2692
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:03 pm

Re: Here we go again

Post by luke_mullet » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:35 pm

After the Wolves approach I was concerned we would lose a good manager. Now if he leaves I'm not bothered. I'm not sure if that's due to our form dropping (and our frailties we showed last season not being addressed) or that we currently have a manager that is going to have his head turned with every job that comes up. He is clearly very interested in managing Rangers so I think it's best for all parties to let it happen. Hopefully it happens ASAP so we can get our manager search process started while we're not playing.

User avatar
SM
dot.org legend
dot.org legend
Posts: 16430
Joined: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:35 pm
Location: Isle of Wight
Contact:

Re: Here we go again

Post by SM » Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:45 am

luke_mullet wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:35 pm
After the Wolves approach I was concerned we would lose a good manager. Now if he leaves I'm not bothered. I'm not sure if that's due to our form dropping (and our frailties we showed last season not being addressed) or that we currently have a manager that is going to have his head turned with every job that comes up. He is clearly very interested in managing Rangers so I think it's best for all parties to let it happen. Hopefully it happens ASAP so we can get our manager search process started while we're not playing.
I actually agree with this.

Turning down the Wolves job was admirable, alongside some of the comments he made over loyalty and commitment to players etc. But it all rings very hollow considering his reported interest (confirmed by multiple journalists in Scotland) in the Rangers job.

I like Beale, I think he has a lot of potential, but the hype is well OTT… His aspirations are getting pretty tiresome.
Isle Of Wight R'ssssssssss

stainesranger
Level 3 dot.orger
Level 3 dot.orger
Posts: 1522
Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:05 am

Re: Here we go again

Post by stainesranger » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:32 pm

None of what he said directly relates to him wanting to move. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt until he actually says something that indicates he wants to go. Until then it’s speculation.

Ridiculous if he does now leave after all that loyalty schtick after the Wolves decision.

User avatar
Rbee
Level 5 dot.orger
Level 5 dot.orger
Posts: 6717
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:01 pm
Location: Swinedon

Re: Here we go again

Post by Rbee » Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:06 am

TalkSport saying that Mick is on his way to Rangers.

User avatar
Rbee
Level 5 dot.orger
Level 5 dot.orger
Posts: 6717
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:01 pm
Location: Swinedon

Re: Here we go again

Post by Rbee » Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:09 am

I can’t help but wonder if our last three results have influenced his decision. Lack of options in January.

I can really see Mick taking the likes of Chair and Dickie as well.

User avatar
Rbee
Level 5 dot.orger
Level 5 dot.orger
Posts: 6717
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:01 pm
Location: Swinedon

Re: Here we go again

Post by Rbee » Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:37 am

A mate of mine made a good point. If there is going to be ‘noise’ around Mick every time a biggish job comes up we can do without that continually unsettling our club.

Of more concern is the players he will take with him. We have a fair few who would excel in the SPL

User avatar
Nw6ranger
Level 1 dot.orger
Level 1 dot.orger
Posts: 292
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:45 pm
Location: NW London

Re: Here we go again

Post by Nw6ranger » Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:25 pm

Rbee wrote:
Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:06 am
TalkSport saying that Mick is on his way to Rangers.

Yeah it's all over the wireless and apparently will be announced on Monday although they said the same about the wolves approach.
Not heard anything official from him or QPR. I remember when TV left. I was crying. I don't feel the same about Mr beale. If he goes then he goes.

Post Reply