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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:58 pm    Post subject: joeybarton.com Reply with quote

Is finally up this evening, and is well worth a read - lots on QPR.

Say what you like about him, the picture and quote at the top of the website is quite fitting.

Check it out:

www.joeybarton.com
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just having a flick through. Whilst it is refreshing to read something from a footballer with opinions, the fact is that any footballer with an opinion is a bit of a novelty.

Some interesting bits in there. I didn't know, for instance, that nothing is actually Joey Barton's fault.

I gave him (as I would most players) the benefit of the doubt when he arrived. 'Underwhelming' would be a kind assessment of him, and whilst I appreciate you need a certain mindset in the line of work he is in - to me he just seems somewhat deluded.

For example, "I bounced back to show what I was capable of in the Arsenal game (I am their nemesis), as well as the Spurs, Swansea and Stoke games." Really Joey? Really?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very stylish website and intresting too. Hope joey comes back as strong on the field too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For example, "I bounced back to show what I was capable of in the Arsenal game (I am their nemesis), as well as the Spurs, Swansea and Stoke games." Really Joey? Really?


I'd agree with his view on that - he was a big influence in the final run of games.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

......and he's wearing the iconic Dennis the menace shirt!!! Classic!!!! Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

his take on the Falklands is interesting it kicked off with the background of an Argentina's military junta skint losing power and willing to send many of it's own people who were poor trained and an army told to sign up and who did not want to.
Into a war with one of the best trained army in the world the out come would always be a British win and one that Thatcher got a lot of credit for when the fact of the matter is she could as could the Argentina's military junta stop the whole thing before any loss of life.

It was not oil then maybe it is now but the loss of life was shocking on both sides.
The images of so many ships on fire and death live 0n. it is right we respect the fallen but questions still need to be asked why it went that far.

As for the website looked nice
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can one be a Nietzschean yet contend that the Royal Family offer good value for money? Off with their heads.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LP wrote:
Some interesting bits in there. I didn't know, for instance, that nothing is actually Joey Barton's fault.


Laughing Laughing

Some interesting reads there but its all very self indulgent.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

finney wrote:
his take on the Falklands is interesting it kicked off with the background of an Argentina's military junta skint losing power and willing to send many of it's own people who were poor trained and an army told to sign up and who did not want to.
Into a war with one of the best trained army in the world the out come would always be a British win and one that Thatcher got a lot of credit for when the fact of the matter is she could as could the Argentina's military junta stop the whole thing before any loss of life.

It was not oil then maybe it is now but the loss of life was shocking on both sides.
The images of so many ships on fire and death live 0n. it is right we respect the fallen but questions still need to be asked why it went that far.

As for the website looked nice


The military junta was never suing for peace - I am happy to listen to Thatcher bashing (the ignorance of most of it is a chuckle) but saying should could have got out of it once she was in it before any loss of life is laughable. The only way to avoid loss of life would have been to give up sovereign territory. Not dissimilar to giving up Gibraltar mthinks...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Political bombshell: Deal was struck which would have prevented Falklands war

Posted on 18 February 2011 by Ray Ryan

Thatcher1 300x282 Political bombshell: Deal was struck which would have prevented Falklands war

Thatcher in Falklands

MICHAEL HESELTINE has dropped a political bombshell by revealing for the first time how Margaret Thatcher agreed a deal which would have stopped the Falklands war.

He claimed a deal had been agreed with the Argentinians to end the dispute peacefully but she was talked out of it by colleages. With so many deaths which could have been avoided, questions are no sure to be asked about the decision.

With the current Tory government coming under increasing fire for a series of embarassing gaffes and U-turns, the former party deputy leader was asked if Thatcher ever changed her mind. And that’s when he revealed the astonishing news about the former Prime Minister who famously said “the lady is not for turning.”

Heseltine has revealed how Thatcher had brokered a deal with the military gunta and President Galtiari but was talked into war with Argentina by colleagues.
Over 1,000 British and Argentinian soldiers losing their lives in the 1982 conflict before the Falklands were taken back under British control after it was invaded by Argentina.

Speaking on Question Time, Hesentine was grilled by David Dimbleby whether Thatcher made any U-turns.

Dimbleby: What was the biggest U-turn Mrs Thatcher did?
Heseltine: Oh, I suppose on the Falklands.
Dimbleby: What, she wasn’t going to go to the Faklands?
Heseltine: No. There was a deal with Galtieri and the Right wing of the Tory Party overturned it in 1982, was it? Or 1981? Whenever it was, it was very early in the…
Dimbleby: But they did actually invade the Falklands, it was slightly different.
Heseltine: Not at all. Mrs Thatcher, through the voice of Nick Ridley announced a deal with the Argentinians and that was her policy. A group of Right wing Conservative MPs said “we won’t put up with this” and Mrs Thatcher gave in.

Heseltine’s comments will change the course of history as it was always believed Thatcher was the orchestrator of the conflict and took all the plaudits when the islands came back under British rule. Yet being talked into a war when a deal was done to sort out the conflict peacefully could now change her place in history.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RType wrote:
LP wrote:
Some interesting bits in there. I didn't know, for instance, that nothing is actually Joey Barton's fault.


Laughing Laughing

Some interesting reads there but its all very self indulgent.


Well its his website so I guess he's entitled to be self-indulgent.
Or do you mean actually having his own website is self-indulgent?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, I've had a look, seems like a good website and whatever anybody may say about Joey Barton, at least he does more than mutter a few cliches, like the biggest half of football people do.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

finney wrote:
Political bombshell: Deal was struck which would have prevented Falklands war

Posted on 18 February 2011 by Ray Ryan

Thatcher1 300x282 Political bombshell: Deal was struck which would have prevented Falklands war

Thatcher in Falklands

MICHAEL HESELTINE has dropped a political bombshell by revealing for the first time how Margaret Thatcher agreed a deal which would have stopped the Falklands war.

He claimed a deal had been agreed with the Argentinians to end the dispute peacefully but she was talked out of it by colleages. With so many deaths which could have been avoided, questions are no sure to be asked about the decision.

With the current Tory government coming under increasing fire for a series of embarassing gaffes and U-turns, the former party deputy leader was asked if Thatcher ever changed her mind. And that’s when he revealed the astonishing news about the former Prime Minister who famously said “the lady is not for turning.”

Heseltine has revealed how Thatcher had brokered a deal with the military gunta and President Galtiari but was talked into war with Argentina by colleagues.
Over 1,000 British and Argentinian soldiers losing their lives in the 1982 conflict before the Falklands were taken back under British control after it was invaded by Argentina.

Speaking on Question Time, Hesentine was grilled by David Dimbleby whether Thatcher made any U-turns.

Dimbleby: What was the biggest U-turn Mrs Thatcher did?
Heseltine: Oh, I suppose on the Falklands.
Dimbleby: What, she wasn’t going to go to the Faklands?
Heseltine: No. There was a deal with Galtieri and the Right wing of the Tory Party overturned it in 1982, was it? Or 1981? Whenever it was, it was very early in the…
Dimbleby: But they did actually invade the Falklands, it was slightly different.
Heseltine: Not at all. Mrs Thatcher, through the voice of Nick Ridley announced a deal with the Argentinians and that was her policy. A group of Right wing Conservative MPs said “we won’t put up with this” and Mrs Thatcher gave in.

Heseltine’s comments will change the course of history as it was always believed Thatcher was the orchestrator of the conflict and took all the plaudits when the islands came back under British rule. Yet being talked into a war when a deal was done to sort out the conflict peacefully could now change her place in history.


A little naive...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flatfoot wrote:
A little naive...


Heseltine, Dimbleby or Finney ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawny wrote:
Anyway, I've had a look, seems like a good website


I haven't bothered to look at it, but have taken an instant dislike to it to save some time. How dare he do anything else other than play football. Especially when he can't play football because he's banned for 12 matches.

There ought to be a law.
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