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glover_1991 · Level 1 dot.orger Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 176

for me being white, this racism stuff is really getting boring now. I havn't got a problem with coloured people or asians(not to the extent of being abusive towards them) BUT.. why isit that if a black man(am i allowed to say that) gets called a flipping w*nker, or not picked for the team..then this becomes a racist action and not because the guy actually is a w*nker, also if chris hughton or the new wolves manager can't put a name on him, got abuse from a crowd then that would mean it was racist, im sorry but I think people with different coloured skin are now using the term "racism" to their advantage and I think its ridiculous. if someone called me white scum I wouldn't care, I'm proud to be white... and surely they are proud to be black/asian etc?.. the way I'm starting to see it is that black/asian people seem to think they deserve special protection as they are better than white people, but were all the same. simple

rblockells · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:52 am Post subject:

Chappers is our anti-racialism tsar.he will explain.
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Don · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: Re: racism

glover_1991 · Level 1 dot.orger Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 176

yes I agree, I just feel that their starting to use it to their advantage to almost become a higher class than us.. a bit like the al fayed chant, not racist for me..just the same as saying he wants to be a brit, because he don't so is that racist because its patronising ?.. just bores me and I think everyone needs to get a grip.

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Don · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:06 am Post subject:

Original post amended. I was thinking of a lot of my work colleagues.
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Dunc · Level 3 dot.orger Joined: 02 Feb 2012 Posts: 1428

Yes quite right, it's almost as if minorities have got something to be annoyed about Rolling Eyes

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SheepRanger · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject:

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glover_1991 · Level 1 dot.orger Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 176

I would love access to the main bit, I know you were being sarcastic btw and you probably think im a nob and all that but its aload of rubish, look at the evra/suarez issue, or the terry/ferdinand issue. its all getting silly now and don't get me wrong I hate john terry more than any other player but if a black bloke called me a white caaant then I wouldnt make such a fuss...after all I'm proud to be white and most of the time proud to be english.... Wink

Dave · Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 85

"why isit that if a black man(am i allowed to say that) gets called a flipping w*nker, or not picked for the team..then this becomes a racist action and not because the guy actually is a w*nker, also if chris hughton or the new wolves manager can't put a name on him, got abuse from a crowd then that would mean it was racist"
Firstly, this is complete nonsense. Back it up with examples. None of those insults bring the element of race into them, therefore they're not racist.

Secondly, "If someone called me white scum I wouldn't care" is again a nonsensical argument. You were not and as such cannot judge. Even if you could judge, why does your tolerance speak on behalf of a whole race? I'm particularly thick skinned and wouldn't care if someone called me a "boy loving paedo" .. does that mean, because, I would tolerate it, others should be made to? I know black people that don't care if they're called "black scum", yet as I've said, why should their tolerance mean others should have to be called it?

You've got to remember it was only 50 years ago when "No Blacks No dogs No Irish" signs were outside lodging houses in London. Only 30 years ago when the discrimination ultimately lead to the Brixton riots. This is not some ancient wrong that is trying to be ammended for here. This is discrimination that was the norm in your grandad/dad's era and less but still here in the current era.

Lastly, it's the law. Often I hear the argument of "foreigners having no respect for the law" banded about.. Well if the law is so important to you then follow the law in regard to racism. What with the vast amount of past wrongdoings against people of different skin colours, the least they could do was make it law so that it doesn't happen again... and the least you can do is obey that law. The Suarez and Terry issue is a simple one.. don't break the law. Issue over.

If it's "getting boring now" to you, what would you suggest.. are you advocating dropping the law and allowing people to shout racist abuse to people? Is this for your own boredom issues or are you trying to make the world a better place to live in? Not sure how that would improve anyone's life.

misterprash · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject:

Maybe if you had spent a vast amount of your life being singled out and abused for the colour of your skin then being called "white scum" you may have a different feeling on the matter. Add to that arguement that in a majority of places you may well be surrounded by a lot of other white people. It doesn't get to you so much. I know that if I was surrounded by a lot of other Asians and a few white folks called me a "p@ki" it wouldn't bother me so much as there'd be support in numbers. Try taking that abuse when you're in a minority and you may start to get a picture of why it causes hurt. Essentially it's letting you know that you're not a part of it, that you are on your own. It's a pretty nasty feeling.

There is a fine line to all of this and it's important to not go overboard in Political Correctness. It's one thing when there's clear racial abuse but no one should be using it as a weapon or a counter racist tool. I don't believe anyone has been. Certainly not Anton Ferdinand. All he has done is kept a graceful silence under it. Unless you are talking about Evra or someone in your own experience I don't even get why this is a topic that needs much more discussion?

By the way, no Black or Asian person wants special protection, that has to be the most ridiculous comment and sweeping generalisation I've read on here. All we want is inclusion, at least I do and not to be reminded of my skin colour by anyone (in a negative manner). I can see when I look in the mirror and that's good enough for me.

glover_1991 · Level 1 dot.orger Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 176

dave im 20 years old so unfortunately I only know of how it used to be from storys from my grandad etc... but come off it the suarez/evra thing was ridiculous.. the whole I think its racist their arn't enough black managers.. its all getting pathetic and I don't think im thick skinned just proud of what my race, nationality is.. just saying that if I got called a white c*nt would anyone really get arrested.. I'd imagine no. I'm not trying to drop the law or say its okay, but whoevers being racist surely isn't worth a wank, and secondly they should be man enough to grow a pair and take it as 'sticks and stones' just makes me laugh how the only racist abuse thats gets reported is when the coloured guy is the victim.. one way traffic.. Rolling Eyes

RLHOOP · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject:

Affirmative action will be the next thing to blow up in people's faces. It is bordering on a joke over here and lands people in roles where they are so far out of their depth it is detrimental to the process.

Why should any group get a better chance than another. Best candidate should be the one to get the role, position or place. Giving a minority an unfair advantage is just insulting them further by saying normally you wouldn't have got this but we have a quota to meet.

misterprash · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: