If the point is: no one takes on board all the the bible's moral teachings, I would agree. Or if the point is: nobody's total moral framework is 100% from the bible, I'd also agree.Lee Gib wrote:I think the point he's making is that no one takes their morals from the bible. Not you, the pope or any of the people you mentioned, despite their beliefs. I think he's spot on and it's very easily provable.dm wrote:Cook Pass - would you know better than for example: Desmond Tutu, Mother Theresa, ML King, William Booth, Thomas Barnado, Florence Nightingale or William Wilberforce who would insist their morality, which they all took from the bible, guided them to do what they did?
You might choose to draw your morality from yourself, others choose to draw it from elsewhere. And that, as you might say, is simple fact.
However, billions of people would say that the bible, and of course other religious texts, have significantly shaped their morality to such an extent that they've not only changed they way they live, they've also worked to change what they consider as immoral in the world around them - those I mentioned being some outstanding examples.
What 'proof' could 'disprove' those personal stories and what kind of superior morality would another have to make such a judgement?