Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by dm » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:06 pm

ZENITH R wrote:
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dm wrote:
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I get all of that (i think), but if Manning doesn't sign a new contract then wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest to either play him or terminate the contract? It would not do dressing room morale any good with a player who is not happy and as had been said already, we could see his best foitball if he wants to progress his career in the prem.
I can't see it would be in Manning's interest to have his contract terminated at the moment as he's no club to move on to yet.

However, you might be right that it's better to play him even if he doesn't want to commit to an extension to his contract. Of course, the club are under no obligation to play him but I am increasingly uneasy with this "Sign or you're not playing" tactic.

We don't know the full story as BOS still hasn't signed yet plays. They're apparently at 'different stages of negotiations' according to Warburton, but that tells us little.
There are rumours that Bournemouth are interested in BOS.
Yup, and renewed rumours that Wham are interested in Manning.

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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by n22hoop » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:29 am

dm wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:06 pm
ZENITH R wrote:
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dm wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:32 pm


I can't see it would be in Manning's interest to have his contract terminated at the moment as he's no club to move on to yet.

However, you might be right that it's better to play him even if he doesn't want to commit to an extension to his contract. Of course, the club are under no obligation to play him but I am increasingly uneasy with this "Sign or you're not playing" tactic.

We don't know the full story as BOS still hasn't signed yet plays. They're apparently at 'different stages of negotiations' according to Warburton, but that tells us little.
There are rumours that Bournemouth are interested in BOS.
Yup, and renewed rumours that Wham are interested in Manning.
What now for Manning I wonder? A loan move benefits no one I think.
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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by UxbridgeR » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:04 am

The domestic transfer window remains open until 16th October, so he could still get a permanent move if anyone's interested.
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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by Satch » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:57 am

beaglebum wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:43 pm
I get all of that (i think), but if Manning doesn't sign a new contract then wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest to either play him or terminate the contract? It would not do dressing room morale any good with a player who is not happy and as had been said already, we could see his best foitball if he wants to progress his career in the prem.
I'd rather play him than not but understand the club's position and i don't blame him for wanting to go but I wouldn't want us to spend any money on getting rid. Even if he agreed that we do so my mutual consent and without a pay off, i still think it sends the message to other players that the last year of their contract is optional. I have no reason to think he'd be difficult in the dressing room but if he is he can train on his own.

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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by Satch » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:03 am

UxbridgeR wrote:
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The domestic transfer window remains open until 16th October, so he could still get a permanent move if anyone's interested.
Is that between all divisions or just EFL teams and the PL?

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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by UxbridgeR » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:34 am

Between all divisions, as I understand it. Not PL to PL though.
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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by Giorgio » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:42 am

dm wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:06 pm
Yup, and renewed rumours that Wham are interested in Manning.
..ok then, as much as I am sorry if he leaves I would never hold on a player whose mind is somewhere else...

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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by the big IP » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:05 am

Would be nice to get a bit of cash tomorrow for him.

Offset some of the money we have laid out

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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by ZENITH R » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:02 pm

My thoughts on Manning are ...

I like him.

However, he is not a left back. He is a midfielder who has been asked to play as a left back, and who has taken (unfair) criticism when he has been found wanting in that position. To qualify that, I would say when I think about Ryan Manning's time in a QPR shirt, I think of his goals, his crosses into the box, and chances he has created for others. I do not think about last ditch tackles, him having the right winger in his back pocket, or any other great defensive attributes.

He is not a left back, I know it, you know it and I'm pretty sure he knows it.

We are crying out for a creative midfielder, and we potentially have one being wasted at left back. He has played a few games in midfield, but due to the lack of a decent left back at the club, he has found himself back there covering that position. During the summer we bought LTC and Amos to fill the midfield berths. This must have been disappointing for Manning who has scored 6 goals in 44 games across last season and this season. Amos has scored twice in 40 games over the same period.

Maybe the current situation with Ryan Manning is about money
Maybe its about not wanting to be playing left back
Maybe its about wanting to play in the Premier League
Maybe he feels unappreciated by his manager
Maybe he feels unappreciated by us the fans

Maybe it's one of those, all of those or none of them.

Some of the above are fixable, some are not, and I think he probably won't be a QPR player by Friday evening. For me the sad thing in that situation is I don't think we will have seen the best of Ryan Manning. Playing in midfield I'm sure he would have chipped in with at least 10 goals for the season, and I think we would be looking at a much bigger fee for him, than that which we are currently likely to get. He also seems to be much more creative than others who have been picked to play in midfield ahead of him.

If, they all kiss and make up, and a new contract is signed, I hope we see Manning playing in midfield and not defence. It would seem LTC or Luke Amos' positions would be the most at threat.
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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by UxbridgeR » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:09 pm

I'm not sure I agree with the idea that he's not a left back, or at least wing back. He's only attracted the attention of PL clubs since he started playing there regularly last season, and his goal return for us as a midfielder before that was on a par with Amos's last year. Last year was also his first consistent full season in five years at the club, so I can't see why he would have an issue with the manager who oversaw that.

To me, he's a good attacking left-sided player with a tendency to switch off defensively. He'd probably be decent back-up for someone like Cresswell at West Ham, although they seem to have similar strengths and weaknesses to me. If he gets a chance to have a crack at the PL, I can't see why anyone would begrudge him the opportunity.
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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by Giorgio » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:25 pm

...sitting on the Irish bench in their match vs Finland....
so...when he was playing, playing well he was never considered for a cap.....
now, not playing ...got a call.....may be getting linked to WHam was enough to earn him the cap...?? :lol:

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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by n22hoop » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:18 am

Article on Manning from the Irish Independent. Doesn't give any insight on a potential move. Just sharing.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer ... 22070.html
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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by Montag » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:57 am

If he wants out then he should just be let go. For an appropriate fee of course. Maybe he ain't as great as he thinks he is? My guess is that a more "generous" Championship club will be his destiny. No point in hanging on to players who think they're too good for QPR. They usually end up with splinters up the arse.
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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by n22hoop » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:13 pm

Montag wrote:
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If he wants out then he should just be let go. For an appropriate fee of course. Maybe he ain't as great as he thinks he is? My guess is that a more "generous" Championship club will be his destiny. No point in hanging on to players who think they're too good for QPR. They usually end up with splinters up the arse.
Perhaps Watford Montag?

https://the72.co.uk/196763/watford-have ... -city-duo/
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Re: Anyone know whats happening with Manning?

Post by Montag » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:15 pm

Thanks n22. He'll get a few game there, I imagine. He might not need the tweezers!
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