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Our worst managers

Post by redinjun » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:55 pm

We’ve had some excellent candidates over the years.

Clearly there is plenty of choice, my top 3 would be;

Mark Hughes (naturally)
Alan Mullery
Ray Wilkins

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Re: Our worst managers

Post by White Duck » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:46 pm

Hughes.
Paul feckin Hart.
Steve Burtenshaw.
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Re: Our worst managers

Post by dm » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:49 pm

One for the oldies - Tommy Docherty.

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Re: Our worst managers

Post by Esox Lucius » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:54 pm

1. 'arry Redknapp
2. Mark Hughes
3. Stewart Houston.
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Re: Our worst managers

Post by IJM » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:12 pm

Sorry, but Ray Harford has to be in there somewhere - dreadful Manager

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Re: Our worst managers

Post by 222gers » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:33 pm

Agree with all above mentioned. Frank Sibley was poor as well although of course a very good player whose career was wrecked by injury.

We've had some duffers have we not ? Still, McClaren looks like he'll turn out OK. Shows how much I know.

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Re: Our worst managers

Post by Wegerle » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:39 pm

1) Mark Hughes
2) Mark Hughes
3) Mark Hughes

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Re: Our worst managers

Post by Systemsguy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:43 pm

dm wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:49 pm
One for the oldies - Tommy Docherty.
I liked the doc as we played some lovely football with Stan and Tony Currie gracing LR together for a short while until Stan departed for forest...

Failed to get promotion and lost the goal twins Allen and Goddard (48 goals) for £2M the following summer.... Hard to replace that sort of firepower....

Sadly agree with Sibley (first time round) out of his depth.... Wonderful club man but not a manager....

Burtenshaw second and Houston and Hughes joint third....

Super Ray, Harford, Hart and Gerry (second time round) deserve a mention...
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Re: Our worst managers

Post by dm » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:45 pm

Systemsguy wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:43 pm
dm wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:49 pm
One for the oldies - Tommy Docherty.
I liked the doc as we played some lovely football with Stan and Tony Currie gracing LR together for a short while until Stan departed for forest...

Failed to get promotion and lost the goal twins Allen and Goddard (48 goals) for £2M the following summer.... Hard to replace that sort of firepower....

Sadly agree with Sibley (first time round) out of his depth.... Wonderful club man but not a manager....

Burtenshaw second and Houston and Hughes joint third....

Super Ray, Harford, Hart and Gerry (second time round) deserve a mention...
He let Stan go. Unforgivable.

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Re: Our worst managers

Post by Systemsguy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:47 pm

dm wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:45 pm
Systemsguy wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:43 pm
dm wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:49 pm
One for the oldies - Tommy Docherty.
I liked the doc as we played some lovely football with Stan and Tony Currie gracing LR together for a short while until Stan departed for forest...

Failed to get promotion and lost the goal twins Allen and Goddard (48 goals) for £2M the following summer.... Hard to replace that sort of firepower....

Sadly agree with Sibley (first time round) out of his depth.... Wonderful club man but not a manager....

Burtenshaw second and Houston and Hughes joint third....

Super Ray, Harford, Hart and Gerry (second time round) deserve a mention...
He let Stan go. Unforgivable.
Stan was like a son to St.Jim Gregory.... He let him go...

He and the club couldn't stand in his way, £250K fee and he was going to the then European Champions who would win the European Super Cup with him (his only trophy win) and they would retain the European Cup that season where but for falling out with Cloughy he would have been on the bench for a medal at least....

St.Jim did the same with El Tel (The Doc's replacement) going to Barca ..... We then got another deserved mention as worst manager Alan Mullery...
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Re: Our worst managers

Post by dm » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:59 pm

Excellent reminiscing, Systemsguy. But, I still don't like Docherty :wink:

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Re: Our worst managers

Post by Montag » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:39 pm

As a person, the Doc was a bit of an annoying tosser but as our manager (2nd time) I thought he did well to start with. As SG says with TC and Stan in the side we were superb and outclassed the whole of D2. Had it not been for Jim G getting the old pound signs in his eyes again and selling Bowlesy then we would surely have been promoted in 1980. Story of our club.
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Re: Our worst managers

Post by Systemsguy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:44 pm

Favourite Tommy Doc story was him still living up in Manchester and traveling home when he bumped into ManUre fans on the train who were singing "whose up Mary Brown" to him......

Docherty got the sack over an affair with her at United, he left his then wife for her if I remember rightly...

Kept his temper in check till getting off the train where they then promptly tied him to a trolley with football scarves and shoved him down an escalator....

Remember him being in hospital at the time but not the reason why.....

Social media? They would have filmed it today and it would have gone viral....

Stan claimed someone tied QPR scarves to the club's stretcher on the Doc's return to work and he happily claimed credit for it.....
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Re: Our worst managers

Post by Stans left foot » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:08 am

The stories that emerge re their behavior are I suggest, a reflection of their success or otherwise....

eg the Hughes back ground of him and his attitude towards others, The Mary Brown story I remember but not the escalator episode. At that time Docherty was quite a pedigree manager having managed Man U ...we were almost too proud to have him.

You can always see when a managers loses the plot when they refer to themselves in the 3rd person singular.....by memory Allen did that a few times (?)

Not ours, but remember seeing Graham Taylor down at a reserve Watty/Rangers game at Northwood and he was great with some kids who were playing alongside the match - being normal and approachable - you can forgive a bloke a lot for simply that.
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Re: Our worst managers

Post by Andy_N19 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:55 pm

Wegerle wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:39 pm
1) Mark Hughes
2) Mark Hughes
3) Mark Hughes
Agreed. The other duff managers at least didn't cripple the club, but with Hughes
there was something particularly corrosive about his presence which nearly drove our club
to the brink of extinction.
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