Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by willesdenr » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:59 pm

trevsinclair85 wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:52 pm
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Were
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No were as in “were” better than that.

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by Damien » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:02 pm

The writing has been on the wall for a while now. Olly definetetelyy got them over-achieving by the looks of it, but this squad is L1 and has been for sometime. Take out the only two decent players we had... and this is the result. Changing managers is not going to miraculously change anything, as we have proved so relentlessly in recent years. I would be looking at who is recruiting these players, who have already thrown the towel in after 4 games by the look of it.

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by trevsinclair85 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:07 pm

Grimsby Ranger wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:53 pm
Damien wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:44 pm
Grimsby Ranger wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:37 pm
Get rid of the useless f***ing numbnut now...…….Fernandes hang your head in shame :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
I was quite pragmatic about TF and his buddies tenure of our club... not anymore. He is the worst thing that has ever happened to QPR, and his legacy is going to take years(if ever) to put right. Someone needs to have a word with Les and whoever is recruiting/recommending these players as well. FLIPPING fumin :-x
He has been the worst chairman in my living memory and I'm 51. We're heading for the 3rd division with a massive FFP fine and transfer embargo, no sign of the promises he's made and at least a quarter of a billion...…...a quarter of a billion pounds of TV money wasted in the process. How the bloke amassed his fortune amazes me :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Exactly my thoughts. How has he made hundreds of millions in his career. I understand you have to take some risks in business, but every decision he has made since taking over our club, has been a terrible one, and his final hurrah was getting rid of Ollie, when he knew full well that we were going to have the same team. A weakened team in fact. Ollie was a safe enough bet, whilst we continued to consolidate, but the tw*t decided to bring in the more glamorous McClaren (just a fecking name!) to replace him and this is what we are left with. Fernandes is an absolute disaster.

I'd say relegation to League 1 and the chance to rebuild from scratch might be the best thing for us, if we didn't have such a huge financial issue hanging over us, caused by that cretin.

When we first got promoted to the Premiership, I said to my Dad that all I wanted was for us to invest in some decent young players from he championship, that we could develop and then if we got relegated, they would still have some resale value. Instead, Fernandes green lit a philosophy to go and sign everyone's over the hill reject crocks, like Andy Johnson, Ji Sung Park, Julio Cesar, Rob Green, Bobby Zamora, Joey Barton et al. And all on massive wages. How can a savvy businessman even look at that transfer policy and even think it is sustainable. And that effect has hung over us since, causing this FFP rubbish, therefore preventing us from building a decent enough squad.

But Fernandes had a glimmer of a chance in my opinion. Stick with Ollie a little longer, whilst the FFP passes, and maybe get a decent couple of offers in for some of our better players, so that we could bring in some dosh and hopefully replace them with more bargains. We found Freeman, we can do it again. We found Eze, we can do it again. We found young Smith, who I think is a prospect, we can do it again. And that has to be our business model. Finding young talent and selling them on for profit. It is the only way we are going to recoup funds and stabilise this mess.

But he couldn't even do that. He kneejerk sacks Ollie, and brings in this absolute failure of a Manager. So what if he won the Eredivise league. That league is a shambles. We are doomed with McClaren, we can all see it. It could have been so different, if we had had a chairman who had an element, just an inkling of football knowledge and how to build a club. Build the training ground, build the scouting system, build the academy. That's how you build a club like us. Any club!!! But he gambled it all away like a gambling addict down the casino, and he has been chasing to recoup his money ever since. Our club is a roulette wheel to him. I'm fuming with him.
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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by trevsinclair85 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:07 pm

willesdenr wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:59 pm
trevsinclair85 wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:52 pm
Rbee wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:48 pm
Were
We're.
No were as in “were” better than that.
Yep, my bad. Read it wrong!

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by Damien » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:14 pm

Wegerle wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:54 pm
Damien wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:49 pm
Wegerle wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:41 pm


I have to admit, I am struggling to find one at the moment. We are in a much worse state than I anticipated.
We're just going to have to take it one game at a time and hope a win somewhere along the line might spark a revival of some sort.
Lets all keep on supporting the players. It's not a lack of effort but a lack of quality.
Disagree. There doesn't seem to be much effort on show tonight. You would think after the shame of Saturday, these players would do the professional thing and bust a gut to get some sort of result, but no. Gutless, clueless and quite a few other adjectives sum them up for me.
I honestly think these players are out of their depth Damien and can't do much more than this.
I myself am a very average football player who puts in tons of work and dedication. It doesn't stop more talented players, putting in half the effort, run rings around me. We have a League One squad at the moment being completely found out at Championship level.
I hear what you're saying Wegs.

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by Damien » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:16 pm

trevsinclair85 wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:07 pm
Grimsby Ranger wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:53 pm
Damien wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:44 pm
I was quite pragmatic about TF and his buddies tenure of our club... not anymore. He is the worst thing that has ever happened to QPR, and his legacy is going to take years(if ever) to put right. Someone needs to have a word with Les and whoever is recruiting/recommending these players as well. FLIPPING fumin :-x
He has been the worst chairman in my living memory and I'm 51. We're heading for the 3rd division with a massive FFP fine and transfer embargo, no sign of the promises he's made and at least a quarter of a billion...…...a quarter of a billion pounds of TV money wasted in the process. How the bloke amassed his fortune amazes me :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Exactly my thoughts. How has he made hundreds of millions in his career. I understand you have to take some risks in business, but every decision he has made since taking over our club, has been a terrible one, and his final hurrah was getting rid of Ollie, when he knew full well that we were going to have the same team. A weakened team in fact. Ollie was a safe enough bet, whilst we continued to consolidate, but the tw*t decided to bring in the more glamorous McClaren (just a FLIPPING name!) to replace him and this is what we are left with. Fernandes is an absolute disaster.

I'd say relegation to League 1 and the chance to rebuild from scratch might be the best thing for us, if we didn't have such a huge financial issue hanging over us, caused by that cretin.

When we first got promoted to the Premiership, I said to my Dad that all I wanted was for us to invest in some decent young players from he championship, that we could develop and then if we got relegated, they would still have some resale value. Instead, Fernandes green lit a philosophy to go and sign everyone's over the hill reject crocks, like Andy Johnson, Ji Sung Park, Julio Cesar, Rob Green, Bobby Zamora, Joey Barton et al. And all on massive wages. How can a savvy businessman even look at that transfer policy and even think it is sustainable. And that effect has hung over us since, causing this FFP rubbish, therefore preventing us from building a decent enough squad.

But Fernandes had a glimmer of a chance in my opinion. Stick with Ollie a little longer, whilst the FFP passes, and maybe get a decent couple of offers in for some of our better players, so that we could bring in some dosh and hopefully replace them with more bargains. We found Freeman, we can do it again. We found Eze, we can do it again. We found young Smith, who I think is a prospect, we can do it again. And that has to be our business model. Finding young talent and selling them on for profit. It is the only way we are going to recoup funds and stabilise this mess.

But he couldn't even do that. He kneejerk sacks Ollie, and brings in this absolute failure of a Manager. So what if he won the Eredivise league. That league is a shambles. We are doomed with McClaren, we can all see it. It could have been so different, if we had had a chairman who had an element, just an inkling of football knowledge and how to build a club. Build the training ground, build the scouting system, build the academy. That's how you build a club like us. Any club!!! But he gambled it all away like a gambling addict down the casino, and he has been chasing to recoup his money ever since. Our club is a roulette wheel to him. I'm fuming with him.
Top post fella. Agree with every word.

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by Rbee » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:23 pm

Not forgetting that a Chairman lacking football knowledge looks to his Director of Football for guidance and advice.

Whoever suggested replacing Ollie with SMc needed guidance from the football people within the club. We weren’t doing great but we were getting by, holding our own which in our current situation is enough.

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by krama » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:24 pm

Whoops. oh dear! Bad result.
Oh well bring on Wigan.

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by Grimsby Ranger » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:27 pm

Damien wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:16 pm
trevsinclair85 wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:07 pm
Grimsby Ranger wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:53 pm


He has been the worst chairman in my living memory and I'm 51. We're heading for the 3rd division with a massive FFP fine and transfer embargo, no sign of the promises he's made and at least a quarter of a billion...…...a quarter of a billion pounds of TV money wasted in the process. How the bloke amassed his fortune amazes me :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Exactly my thoughts. How has he made hundreds of millions in his career. I understand you have to take some risks in business, but every decision he has made since taking over our club, has been a terrible one, and his final hurrah was getting rid of Ollie, when he knew full well that we were going to have the same team. A weakened team in fact. Ollie was a safe enough bet, whilst we continued to consolidate, but the tw*t decided to bring in the more glamorous McClaren (just a FLIPPING name!) to replace him and this is what we are left with. Fernandes is an absolute disaster.

I'd say relegation to League 1 and the chance to rebuild from scratch might be the best thing for us, if we didn't have such a huge financial issue hanging over us, caused by that cretin.

When we first got promoted to the Premiership, I said to my Dad that all I wanted was for us to invest in some decent young players from he championship, that we could develop and then if we got relegated, they would still have some resale value. Instead, Fernandes green lit a philosophy to go and sign everyone's over the hill reject crocks, like Andy Johnson, Ji Sung Park, Julio Cesar, Rob Green, Bobby Zamora, Joey Barton et al. And all on massive wages. How can a savvy businessman even look at that transfer policy and even think it is sustainable. And that effect has hung over us since, causing this FFP rubbish, therefore preventing us from building a decent enough squad.

But Fernandes had a glimmer of a chance in my opinion. Stick with Ollie a little longer, whilst the FFP passes, and maybe get a decent couple of offers in for some of our better players, so that we could bring in some dosh and hopefully replace them with more bargains. We found Freeman, we can do it again. We found Eze, we can do it again. We found young Smith, who I think is a prospect, we can do it again. And that has to be our business model. Finding young talent and selling them on for profit. It is the only way we are going to recoup funds and stabilise this mess.

But he couldn't even do that. He kneejerk sacks Ollie, and brings in this absolute failure of a Manager. So what if he won the Eredivise league. That league is a shambles. We are doomed with McClaren, we can all see it. It could have been so different, if we had had a chairman who had an element, just an inkling of football knowledge and how to build a club. Build the training ground, build the scouting system, build the academy. That's how you build a club like us. Any club!!! But he gambled it all away like a gambling addict down the casino, and he has been chasing to recoup his money ever since. Our club is a roulette wheel to him. I'm fuming with him.
Top post fella. Agree with every word.
Yep, absolutely. He had the chance to get us back to a football club to be proud of but his own ego and lies have contributed to this shambles. We don't want millions spent on players we want players that know what it means to pull on the blue and white hoops (or black and red and NOT PINK) and put in a shift that we can all be proud of...….oh well, it'll soon be back to Chesterfield away in the pissing rain...…..cheers Uncle Tone :x

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by stainesranger » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:28 pm

krama wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:24 pm
Whoops. oh dear! Bad result.
Oh well bring on Wigan.
You needn’t bother posting mate. Just copy and paste “c’est la vie” into every thread and be done with it.

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by krama » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:35 pm

stainesranger wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:28 pm
krama wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:24 pm
Whoops. oh dear! Bad result.
Oh well bring on Wigan.
You needn’t bother posting mate. Just copy and paste “c’est la vie” into every thread and be done with it.
:lol: Maybe "That's football" would be better but all those sentiments are true. What to do eh?!!! :wink:

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by 222gers » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:35 pm

krama wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:24 pm
Whoops. oh dear! Bad result.
Oh well bring on Wigan.
You love being Pollyanna to our Cassandra don't you ?

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by krama » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:43 pm

222gers wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:35 pm
krama wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:24 pm
Whoops. oh dear! Bad result.
Oh well bring on Wigan.
You love being Pollyanna to our Cassandra don't you ?
Always Pollyana mate...lifes too short to be a Cassandra imo. :D

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by 222gers » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:44 pm

krama wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:43 pm
222gers wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:35 pm
krama wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:24 pm
Whoops. oh dear! Bad result.
Oh well bring on Wigan.
You love being Pollyanna to our Cassandra don't you ?
Always Pollyana mate...lifes too short to be a Cassandra imo. :D
Fair enough :wink:

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Re: Match Thread: Queens Park Rangers FC v Bristol City

Post by LanCat » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:49 pm

Should have stayed at home tonight. That was truly awful.

The level of incompetence shown by our players was something else. Really no bright spots at all. I can only assume they practice with a ball that's a different shape and size because no-one knew what to do with the one on the pitch.

My god we are in trouble.

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