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Re: Calm

Post by Crabsandwich » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:29 pm

deadendjob wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:00 pm
Esox Lucius wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:38 pm
They also spent heavily on a lot of loanees, don't let's forget that too.
Do you have any links around the 'spending heavily?' Not having a go just curious.
Also, if we don't have the financial means to purchase players, we should be utilizing the loan market a lot more than we have.
But the loan market isn't cheap either. An extreme example, but Birmingham's deal to take Gallagher on loan from Southampton is costing them £43k a week all in (loan 'fee', wages, agents fees). And you are left with nothing at the end of it.

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Re: Calm

Post by 222gers » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:59 pm

Looks like the loan market has gone the way of the transfer market in terms of silly money. We are better off out of it and sticking with what we have. We've had some crackers in the past like Walker, Routledge, AT and Townsend but I don't know what we were paying them.

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Re: Calm

Post by the big IP » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:07 pm

Calm after 35 defeats in 68 games.

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Re: Calm

Post by QPR_John » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:11 pm

Crabsandwich wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:29 pm
deadendjob wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:00 pm
Esox Lucius wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:38 pm
They also spent heavily on a lot of loanees, don't let's forget that too.
Do you have any links around the 'spending heavily?' Not having a go just curious.
Also, if we don't have the financial means to purchase players, we should be utilizing the loan market a lot more than we have.
But the loan market isn't cheap either. An extreme example, but Birmingham's deal to take Gallagher on loan from Southampton is costing them £43k a week all in (loan 'fee', wages, agents fees). And you are left with nothing at the end of it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... n-11060633
How can a championship side who have not had a sniff of the Premier League in recent times afford to pay 43k a week without breaking FFP

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Re: Calm

Post by Bear-Grills » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:15 pm

QPR_John wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:11 pm
Crabsandwich wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:29 pm
deadendjob wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:00 pm

Do you have any links around the 'spending heavily?' Not having a go just curious.
Also, if we don't have the financial means to purchase players, we should be utilizing the loan market a lot more than we have.
But the loan market isn't cheap either. An extreme example, but Birmingham's deal to take Gallagher on loan from Southampton is costing them £43k a week all in (loan 'fee', wages, agents fees). And you are left with nothing at the end of it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... n-11060633
How can a championship side who have not had a sniff of the Premier League in recent times afford to pay 43k a week without breaking FFP
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Re: Calm

Post by UxbridgeR » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:35 am

QPR_John wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:11 pm


How can a championship side who have not had a sniff of the Premier League in recent times afford to pay 43k a week without breaking FFP
There's no FFP limit on what you can pay any individual.

Under the new rules, FFP is measured over 3 years, across which the allowable loss is £39M. If that kind of salary is an outlier, then it might be possible to pay it for one player and still operate within the rules. However, in Birmingham's case, all the rumours suggest that they are paying silly money to a lot of players, so the likelihood is they will ultimately fall foul of FFP rules.
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Re: Calm

Post by QPR_John » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:47 am

UxbridgeR wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:35 am
QPR_John wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:11 pm


How can a championship side who have not had a sniff of the Premier League in recent times afford to pay 43k a week without breaking FFP
There's no FFP limit on what you can pay any individual.

Under the new rules, FFP is measured over 3 years, across which the allowable loss is £39M. If that kind of salary is an outlier, then it might be possible to pay it for one player and still operate within the rules. However, in Birmingham's case, all the rumours suggest that they are paying silly money to a lot of players, so the likelihood is they will ultimately fall foul of FFP rules.
"There's no FFP limit on what you can pay any individual."

Of course not. To clarify paying 43k a week to one player suggests the financial structure of the club is such that the idea of breaking FFP is not unreasonable.

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Re: Calm

Post by SheepRanger » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:47 am

UxbridgeR wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:35 am
QPR_John wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:11 pm


How can a championship side who have not had a sniff of the Premier League in recent times afford to pay 43k a week without breaking FFP
There's no FFP limit on what you can pay any individual.

Under the new rules, FFP is measured over 3 years, across which the allowable loss is £39M. If that kind of salary is an outlier, then it might be possible to pay it for one player and still operate within the rules. However, in Birmingham's case, all the rumours suggest that they are paying silly money to a lot of players, so the likelihood is they will ultimately fall foul of FFP rules.
Was Harry involved?

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Re: Calm

Post by UxbridgeR » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 am

SheepRanger wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:47 am
Was Harry involved?
Well he was manager at the time. But as we know, he never gets involved in the finances, and he doesn't like spending the chairman's money, so it was definitely nothing to do with him.
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