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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by Esox Lucius » Thu May 31, 2018 10:49 am

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We certainly need to change something with the likes of Bruno Andrade and Barkley Miguel-Panzo going on to much better things after we have released them.
I had never heard of BM-P so I Googled him; his best season was a few years ago in the regional 4th tier in France and is now playing in Lithuania. I'm not sure how that registers as better things :? I watched Frankie Sutherland play for H&YU FC a few times and he has sunk to a poor technical standard after looking like a prospect at QPR. Maybe the club does know what it is doing after all. They certainly seemed to have dodged a bullet with Cole Kpekawa who most, like myself, thought was a good squad player.
I believe Rbee's comment was made with tongue firmly in cheek.


When was Frankie Sutherland at Hayes ? He was Bromley last year and they had a good season in the National League. I also had hopes he would make it at QPR, but I think the ACL injury he had while at Orient was a killer for him.
My bad, I meant Scott Donnelly. Put that one down to old age :cry: As an aside, they have a 25 y/o striker called Manny Duku who looks the part, and scored a record 39 goals last season but having watched him he doesn't have a killer instinct for getting the ball on target but must be doing other things well. I don't think he would be the next Les Ferdinand but has impressive stats. :D
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by UxbridgeR » Thu May 31, 2018 11:20 am

Ah that makes sense. I only saw 2 games last season, away at Northwood and Uxbridge, and they lost both and didn't score. Rowan Vine was up front in the first one, but didn't stay long. They obviously picked up in the second half of the season, but blew it in the play-offs.
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Re: Bruno Andrade

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Ah that makes sense. I only saw 2 games last season, away at Northwood and Uxbridge, and they lost both and didn't score. Rowan Vine was up front in the first one, but didn't stay long. They obviously picked up in the second half of the season, but blew it in the play-offs.
Yep, they had a very strong finish to the season. What did you make of Manny Duku?
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by westlondonlalala » Thu May 31, 2018 6:33 pm

Good luck Bruno refreshing to see a lad keep at it & try any which way he can to make it.

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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by stainrod's elbow » Thu May 31, 2018 8:52 pm

Esox Lucius wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:49 am
UxbridgeR wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:43 am
Esox Lucius wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:18 am


I had never heard of BM-P so I Googled him; his best season was a few years ago in the regional 4th tier in France and is now playing in Lithuania. I'm not sure how that registers as better things :? I watched Frankie Sutherland play for H&YU FC a few times and he has sunk to a poor technical standard after looking like a prospect at QPR. Maybe the club does know what it is doing after all. They certainly seemed to have dodged a bullet with Cole Kpekawa who most, like myself, thought was a good squad player.
I believe Rbee's comment was made with tongue firmly in cheek.


When was Frankie Sutherland at Hayes ? He was Bromley last year and they had a good season in the National League. I also had hopes he would make it at QPR, but I think the ACL injury he had while at Orient was a killer for him.
My bad, I meant Scott Donnelly. Put that one down to old age :cry: As an aside, they have a 25 y/o striker called Manny Duku who looks the part, and scored a record 39 goals last season but having watched him he doesn't have a killer instinct for getting the ball on target but must be doing other things well. I don't think he would be the next Les Ferdinand but has impressive stats. :D
Could you kindly explain how he got the ball into the goal a record 39 times then? :roll:
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by stainrod's elbow » Thu May 31, 2018 8:59 pm

UxbridgeR wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 11:20 am
Ah that makes sense. I only saw 2 games last season, away at Northwood and Uxbridge, and they lost both and didn't score. Rowan Vine was up front in the first one, but didn't stay long. They obviously picked up in the second half of the season, but blew it in the play-offs.
Good grief - I'm amazed he's still playing at any level. Just Googled him and it turns out he's onto his 21st club (!) and has managed a princely total of 92 goals for all of them (including his Washington-esque hatful of 9 in 69 apps for us) in 18 years! Oddly, I seem to remember him looking quite tasty when he first joined, and scoring two or three early on.
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by Andy_N19 » Thu May 31, 2018 9:43 pm

Greyhound wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:56 pm
We should follow the Brentford approach, ideal for a club like ours.
We used to (Ray Jones[RIP], Sterling...). Judging from the very young team I saw face
Brum a few weeks ago we're going down that road again which is the right direction.
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by White Duck » Thu May 31, 2018 9:59 pm

stainrod's elbow wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 8:59 pm
UxbridgeR wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 11:20 am
Ah that makes sense. I only saw 2 games last season, away at Northwood and Uxbridge, and they lost both and didn't score. Rowan Vine was up front in the first one, but didn't stay long. They obviously picked up in the second half of the season, but blew it in the play-offs.
Good grief - I'm amazed he's still playing at any level. Just Googled him and it turns out he's onto his 21st club (!) and has managed a princely total of 92 goals for all of them (including his Washington-esque hatful of 9 in 69 apps for us) in 18 years! Oddly, I seem to remember him looking quite tasty when he first joined, and scoring two or three early on.
Yeah Vine was a decent player when he first joined but then had a serious injury and was out for a while and was never the same player again. Shame.
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by westlondonlalala » Thu May 31, 2018 10:29 pm

Andy_N19 wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 9:43 pm
Greyhound wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:56 pm
We should follow the Brentford approach, ideal for a club like ours.
We used to (Ray Jones[RIP], Sterling...). Judging from the very young team I saw face
Brum a few weeks ago we're going down that road again which is the right direction.

Brentford’s model is not youth infact haven’t they recently closed they’re accedemy saying it was a waste of time & money.

99% of the profit they turn over on players & 99% of there squad season in season out Is players they have purchased from lower leagues & abroad.

The figures at that club for ins & outs in the transfer market over the last 5yrs would make uncle Tony cry into his soup.

You can’t say it’s luck either they turn them over making upto 10 times what they paid for them time & time again.

You couldn’t get two more contrasting stories between us & them, but I’ll tell you what for all they’re profit & little swanky new stadium being built THEY'LL NEVER BE AS BIG AS US & IF WE CAN PERFORM A MIRACLE AGAIN IN MY LIFETIME & SOMEHOW GET BACK IN THE PREM BEFORE THEM I WILL LOVE IT ILL BE SINGING AND DANCING DOWN BRENTFORD HIGH ST SINGING WE ARE Q P R!!!!!

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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by Esox Lucius » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:07 am

stainrod's elbow wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 8:52 pm
Esox Lucius wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:49 am
UxbridgeR wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:43 am


I believe Rbee's comment was made with tongue firmly in cheek.


When was Frankie Sutherland at Hayes ? He was Bromley last year and they had a good season in the National League. I also had hopes he would make it at QPR, but I think the ACL injury he had while at Orient was a killer for him.
My bad, I meant Scott Donnelly. Put that one down to old age :cry: As an aside, they have a 25 y/o striker called Manny Duku who looks the part, and scored a record 39 goals last season but having watched him he doesn't have a killer instinct for getting the ball on target but must be doing other things well. I don't think he would be the next Les Ferdinand but has impressive stats. :D
Could you kindly explain how he got the ball into the goal a record 39 times then? :roll:
He creates a lot of space for himself and has a lot of shots but very few on target. That was why I thought he looked the part but lacked a Charlie Austin mode, perhaps something fort a good coach to work on.
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by stainrod's elbow » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:40 pm

Am I missing something, sorry? How can he score 39 goals with very few on-target efforts?
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by 222gers » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:46 pm

westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:29 pm
Andy_N19 wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 9:43 pm
Greyhound wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:56 pm
We should follow the Brentford approach, ideal for a club like ours.
We used to (Ray Jones[RIP], Sterling...). Judging from the very young team I saw face
Brum a few weeks ago we're going down that road again which is the right direction.

Brentford’s model is not youth infact haven’t they recently closed they’re accedemy saying it was a waste of time & money.

99% of the profit they turn over on players & 99% of there squad season in season out Is players they have purchased from lower leagues & abroad.

The figures at that club for ins & outs in the transfer market over the last 5yrs would make uncle Tony cry into his soup.

You can’t say it’s luck either they turn them over making upto 10 times what they paid for them time & time again.

You couldn’t get two more contrasting stories between us & them, but I’ll tell you what for all they’re profit & little swanky new stadium being built THEY'LL NEVER BE AS BIG AS US & IF WE CAN PERFORM A MIRACLE AGAIN IN MY LIFETIME & SOMEHOW GET BACK IN THE PREM BEFORE THEM I WILL LOVE IT ILL BE SINGING AND DANCING DOWN BRENTFORD HIGH ST SINGING WE ARE Q P R!!!!!
I'd be interested to hear more about their new stadium. Apparently modest capacity and no grand plans for hospitality etc. The new ground will, apparently, be surrounded by car dealerships and the M4 flyover. Not the most salubrious of areas but nonetheless, or indeed, allthemore still close to Brentford's excellent public houses.

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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by stainrod's elbow » Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:00 pm

I'd be interested to see some figures for both Prem and Champ clubs re hospitality profits as percentage of ground capacity/revenue if anyone has a link to these. What Hoos doesn't seem to understand, or want to understand, is that the main factor is how many fans a club has, but even that matters less and less these days in comparison to TV fees and sponsorship.
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by stainrod's elbow » Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:09 pm

222gers wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:46 pm
westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:29 pm
Andy_N19 wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 9:43 pm


We used to (Ray Jones[RIP], Sterling...). Judging from the very young team I saw face
Brum a few weeks ago we're going down that road again which is the right direction.

Brentford’s model is not youth infact haven’t they recently closed they’re accedemy saying it was a waste of time & money.

99% of the profit they turn over on players & 99% of there squad season in season out Is players they have purchased from lower leagues & abroad.

The figures at that club for ins & outs in the transfer market over the last 5yrs would make uncle Tony cry into his soup.

You can’t say it’s luck either they turn them over making upto 10 times what they paid for them time & time again.

You couldn’t get two more contrasting stories between us & them, but I’ll tell you what for all they’re profit & little swanky new stadium being built THEY'LL NEVER BE AS BIG AS US & IF WE CAN PERFORM A MIRACLE AGAIN IN MY LIFETIME & SOMEHOW GET BACK IN THE PREM BEFORE THEM I WILL LOVE IT ILL BE SINGING AND DANCING DOWN BRENTFORD HIGH ST SINGING WE ARE Q P R!!!!!
I'd be interested to hear more about their new stadium. Apparently modest capacity and no grand plans for hospitality etc. The new ground will, apparently, be surrounded by car dealerships and the M4 flyover. Not the most salubrious of areas but nonetheless, or indeed, allthemore still close to Brentford's excellent public houses.
Again, I'd be interested to know why their stadium plan, if this is accurate, is apparently right for them, whereas we need 30-35K and lots of facilities to be 'competitive'.

Here's the Brentford coaching/B team plan that's been working so well for them:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... e-outcasts

I really hope our Academy works out for us, now that the club has gone that way, or it really will be bust, I fear.
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Re: Bruno Andrade

Post by westlondonlalala » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:02 pm

222gers wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:46 pm
westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:29 pm
Andy_N19 wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 9:43 pm


We used to (Ray Jones[RIP], Sterling...). Judging from the very young team I saw face
Brum a few weeks ago we're going down that road again which is the right direction.

Brentford’s model is not youth infact haven’t they recently closed they’re accedemy saying it was a waste of time & money.

99% of the profit they turn over on players & 99% of there squad season in season out Is players they have purchased from lower leagues & abroad.

The figures at that club for ins & outs in the transfer market over the last 5yrs would make uncle Tony cry into his soup.

You can’t say it’s luck either they turn them over making upto 10 times what they paid for them time & time again.

You couldn’t get two more contrasting stories between us & them, but I’ll tell you what for all they’re profit & little swanky new stadium being built THEY'LL NEVER BE AS BIG AS US & IF WE CAN PERFORM A MIRACLE AGAIN IN MY LIFETIME & SOMEHOW GET BACK IN THE PREM BEFORE THEM I WILL LOVE IT ILL BE SINGING AND DANCING DOWN BRENTFORD HIGH ST SINGING WE ARE Q P R!!!!!
I'd be interested to hear more about their new stadium. Apparently modest capacity and no grand plans for hospitality etc. The new ground will, apparently, be surrounded by car dealerships and the M4 flyover. Not the most salubrious of areas but nonetheless, or indeed, allthemore still close to Brentford's excellent public houses.
I drive over it or past the gates of it most days not a single brick has been put down yet.

You talk about location & car dealerships, have you visited any new builds lately, the majority of them are stuck in the middle of nowhere or on industrial sights, not like the old days where they were in the heart of a community.

As far as hospitality I have no clue, I think the main aim for any Club is TV revenue & how to get there quickly.

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