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Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by ANDREW1302 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:27 pm

Every season i am filled with anticipation and the 'possibility'. This year i feel unenthusiastic and dread. Maybe that means we will get promoted rather than languish!
Seriously i can't remember a time when the feeling amongst fans has been so negative. Clearly we are having problems with signings and there seems little fillip. Today Fulham's new signing took us apart at under 23s and we ended up being thrashed. Just hope we have some positive news soon.

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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by 222gers » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:48 pm

They say it's good to be a pessimist as you never experience disappointment. The key to all the moaning we've seen on here over the last season or two consists in the expectation of pushing for promotion despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary on the pitch.
We approach the impending season with hope rather than expectation and that's all to the good really.

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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by W12Allstars » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:39 pm

I was thinking the same thing earlier this evening. I expect extraordinarily little from the coming season. Maybe a lifetime of disappointment is finally seeping through to my brain?
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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by SM » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:04 pm

I think the best we can hope for is some entertaining football and a mid-table finish.

I actually think we have the makings of a decent side, but we are far too weak in key areas for me. I still don't see where the goals are coming from, and that's for starters.

Let's hope we're all pleasantly surprised, eh?
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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by the big IP » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:22 am

it was 16 years in between relegation and promotion the first time, i have a feeling with the premiership money the way it is with clubs coming down, it might be even longer this time around, in fact i would say League 1 would be more likely.

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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by westlondonlalala » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am

the big IP wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:22 am
it was 16 years in between relegation and promotion the first time, i have a feeling with the premiership money the way it is with clubs coming down, it might be even longer this time around, in fact i would say League 1 would be more likely.
We are not a premier league club full stop, there is not one aspect of our club that is premier league level or structurally prepared for it.

Obviously we can do a Bournemouth and change that but as we cocked up our chance big time we are where we are.

This is our level & let's not take it for granted, we have a house to get in order nobody likes chores but that's what's got to happen over the foreseeable future.

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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by BiscuitRanger » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:52 am

westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am
the big IP wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:22 am
it was 16 years in between relegation and promotion the first time, i have a feeling with the premiership money the way it is with clubs coming down, it might be even longer this time around, in fact i would say League 1 would be more likely.
We are not a premier league club full stop, there is not one aspect of our club that is premier league level or structurally prepared for it.

Obviously we can do a Bournemouth and change that but as we cocked up our chance big time we are where we are.

This is our level & let's not take it for granted, we have a house to get in order nobody likes chores but that's what's got to happen over the foreseeable future.

The fans?
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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by westlondonlalala » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:14 pm

Of course the fans we're the greatest in the land but unfortunately that doesn't sustain premier league status.

Anyway we can't fill Loftus Road in the championship so they're not hardcore judging by the numbers.

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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by kernowhoop » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:32 pm

BiscuitRanger wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:52 am
westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am
the big IP wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:22 am
it was 16 years in between relegation and promotion the first time, i have a feeling with the premiership money the way it is with clubs coming down, it might be even longer this time around, in fact i would say League 1 would be more likely.
We are not a premier league club full stop, there is not one aspect of our club that is premier league level or structurally prepared for it.

Obviously we can do a Bournemouth and change that but as we cocked up our chance big time we are where we are.

This is our level & let's not take it for granted, we have a house to get in order nobody likes chores but that's what's got to happen over the foreseeable future.

The fans?
Hmm. For the big occasions (play-offs) we turn out in impressive numbers. Away from home, often impressive numbers, too. But, at home, we do not usually fill the stadium for Championship matches; worse than that, at Loftus Road, some of our fans turn on the team much too readily. If that continues in 2017-2018, Ollie's job will be made even harder.
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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by WA Hoop » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:49 am

westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am
the big IP wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:22 am
it was 16 years in between relegation and promotion the first time, i have a feeling with the premiership money the way it is with clubs coming down, it might be even longer this time around, in fact i would say League 1 would be more likely.
We are not a premier league club full stop, there is not one aspect of our club that is premier league level or structurally prepared for it.

Obviously we can do a Bournemouth and change that but as we cocked up our chance big time we are where we are.

This is our level & let's not take it for granted, we have a house to get in order nobody likes chores but that's what's got to happen over the foreseeable future.
And that in a nutshell Lala is most galling aspect of our club during my entire lifetime. :evil:
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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by SheepRanger » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:09 am

westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am
the big IP wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:22 am
it was 16 years in between relegation and promotion the first time, i have a feeling with the premiership money the way it is with clubs coming down, it might be even longer this time around, in fact i would say League 1 would be more likely.
We are not a premier league club full stop, there is not one aspect of our club that is premier league level or structurally prepared for it.

Obviously we can do a Bournemouth and change that but as we cocked up our chance big time we are where we are.

This is our level & let's not take it for granted, we have a house to get in order nobody likes chores but that's what's got to happen over the foreseeable future.
Some clubs of equal stature to ourselves in League One such as Blackburn, Bradford, Charlton, Plymouth, Portsmouth. And Coventry in League Two.

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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by UxbridgeR » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:24 am

SheepRanger wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:09 am
westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am
the big IP wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:22 am
it was 16 years in between relegation and promotion the first time, i have a feeling with the premiership money the way it is with clubs coming down, it might be even longer this time around, in fact i would say League 1 would be more likely.
We are not a premier league club full stop, there is not one aspect of our club that is premier league level or structurally prepared for it.

Obviously we can do a Bournemouth and change that but as we cocked up our chance big time we are where we are.

This is our level & let's not take it for granted, we have a house to get in order nobody likes chores but that's what's got to happen over the foreseeable future.
Some clubs of equal stature to ourselves in League One such as Blackburn, Bradford, Charlton, Plymouth, Portsmouth. And Coventry in League Two.
By the same token, some clubs of equal stature are in the PL - Bournemouth, Burnley, Swansea, Watford, Huddersfield, Brighton, and a few more who would have fallen into that category a few years ago - Palace, Leicester, Stoke, West Brom. That's half of the league.

It can be done, and things can change dramatically in a few years, so let's not get too downbeat about the possibilities.
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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by SheepRanger » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:01 am

UxbridgeR wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:24 am
SheepRanger wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:09 am
westlondonlalala wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am


We are not a premier league club full stop, there is not one aspect of our club that is premier league level or structurally prepared for it.

Obviously we can do a Bournemouth and change that but as we cocked up our chance big time we are where we are.

This is our level & let's not take it for granted, we have a house to get in order nobody likes chores but that's what's got to happen over the foreseeable future.
Some clubs of equal stature to ourselves in League One such as Blackburn, Bradford, Charlton, Plymouth, Portsmouth. And Coventry in League Two.
By the same token, some clubs of equal stature are in the PL - Bournemouth, Burnley, Swansea, Watford, Huddersfield, Brighton, and a few more who would have fallen into that category a few years ago - Palace, Leicester, Stoke, West Brom. That's half of the league.

It can be done, and things can change dramatically in a few years, so let's not get too downbeat about the possibilities.
Good point - Im just a bit glass half full at the moment after we wasted our investment. We really need to turn this around and stabalise asap before we decline further.

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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by mickeystar » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:21 pm

ANDREW1302 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:27 pm
Seriously i can't remember a time when the feeling amongst fans has been so negative
You seriously cannot remember ANY time a QPR fan has been negative?? How long have you been a fan?
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Re: Maybe foreboding is a plus

Post by ANDREW1302 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:11 pm

Mickey - first game 1968. Yes things have changed a lot over time. From a popular family club playing attacking football with sensible expectation to the big moment when someone decided to invest heavily but made a total cock up which simply nailed the coffin of change. He then thought with a flick of his twitter account he could persuade all of us stupid fans that he actually was now going to do it the proper way. Chances in life don't come along that often and when they do it is best not to totally mess them up.

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