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Re: Biden

Post by Montag » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:28 pm

UxbridgeR wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:17 pm
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Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:02 pm
Barring the possibility of fraud, I fully expect Trump to be re-elected. The Dems only have themselves to blame. And there's an end to it.
I'm not sure what would lead you to expect that. Virtually all the polls show Biden a long way ahead, and while they got it wrong in 2016, they were on the money for the mid-terms. After the last five years, you can't rule anything out, but it's pretty clear which way the wind is currently blowing.

The voter fraud stuff is laughable. There's no evidence of it ever having been any kind of meaningful factor. It's just Trump getting his excuses in early and setting the country up for violent repercussions after Nov 3rd.
There is evidence of fraud for mail-ins. Not only in the US but here as well and they do have an impact. I started doubting everything the media says in 1997. The Guardian claimed on May 3rd 1997 that Tony Blair was greeted in Downing St. the previous day by an army of card-carrying New Labour members. This was a lie - I was there. I can't tell you what to think but one thing I have discovered over the years is that in politics, virtually nothing is what it seems. As for the US election? My money's on DT - literally. If I'm wrong then c'est la vie.
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Re: Biden

Post by Montag » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:44 am

NY Post published a nice story about the Bidens this morning.
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Re: Biden

Post by DroopStreetOldBoys » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:06 pm

Montag wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:28 pm
UxbridgeR wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:17 pm
Montag wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:02 pm
Barring the possibility of fraud, I fully expect Trump to be re-elected. The Dems only have themselves to blame. And there's an end to it.
I'm not sure what would lead you to expect that. Virtually all the polls show Biden a long way ahead, and while they got it wrong in 2016, they were on the money for the mid-terms. After the last five years, you can't rule anything out, but it's pretty clear which way the wind is currently blowing.

The voter fraud stuff is laughable. There's no evidence of it ever having been any kind of meaningful factor. It's just Trump getting his excuses in early and setting the country up for violent repercussions after Nov 3rd.
There is evidence of fraud for mail-ins. Not only in the US but here as well and they do have an impact. I started doubting everything the media says in 1997. The Guardian claimed on May 3rd 1997 that Tony Blair was greeted in Downing St. the previous day by an army of card-carrying New Labour members. This was a lie - I was there. I can't tell you what to think but one thing I have discovered over the years is that in politics, virtually nothing is what it seems. As for the US election? My money's on DT - literally. If I'm wrong then c'est la vie.
the rate of voting fraud overall in the US is between 0.00004% and 0.0009%. The bigger threat to fair elections is the dark money swirling around https://www.opensecrets.org/dark-money/basics

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Re: Biden

Post by Mr Beef » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:16 pm

Montag wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:28 pm
UxbridgeR wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:17 pm
Montag wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:02 pm
Barring the possibility of fraud, I fully expect Trump to be re-elected. The Dems only have themselves to blame. And there's an end to it.
I'm not sure what would lead you to expect that. Virtually all the polls show Biden a long way ahead, and while they got it wrong in 2016, they were on the money for the mid-terms. After the last five years, you can't rule anything out, but it's pretty clear which way the wind is currently blowing.

The voter fraud stuff is laughable. There's no evidence of it ever having been any kind of meaningful factor. It's just Trump getting his excuses in early and setting the country up for violent repercussions after Nov 3rd.
There is evidence of fraud for mail-ins. Not only in the US but here as well and they do have an impact. I started doubting everything the media says in 1997. The Guardian claimed on May 3rd 1997 that Tony Blair was greeted in Downing St. the previous day by an army of card-carrying New Labour members. This was a lie - I was there. I can't tell you what to think but one thing I have discovered over the years is that in politics, virtually nothing is what it seems. As for the US election? My money's on DT - literally. If I'm wrong then c'est la vie.
Do you have links to evidence for the mail in fraud that you mention? It would be interesting to read it.

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Re: Biden

Post by Montag » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:43 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/nyre ... fraud.html

Here's one. Despite what happened in NJ, many Dem controlled states have insisted on introducing it. Of course, the NYT is virtually an arm of the Democrat party so they think it's nothing to worry about.
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Re: Biden

Post by Mr Beef » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:47 pm

Montag wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:43 pm
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/nyre ... fraud.html

Here's one. Despite what happened in NJ, many Dem controlled states have insisted on introducing it. Of course, the NYT is virtually an arm of the Democrat party so they think it's nothing to worry about.
That's the evidence? :shock:

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Re: Biden

Post by Montag » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 pm

Believe what you like. I prefer facts to fiction.
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Re: Biden

Post by Mr Beef » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:57 pm

Montag wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 pm
Believe what you like. I prefer facts to fiction.
That's all I was asking for, but so far you've only been able to supply the latter.

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Re: Biden

Post by DroopStreetOldBoys » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:32 am

Montag wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 pm
Believe what you like. I prefer facts to fiction.
Did you read the whole article?

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Re: Biden

Post by Montag » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 am

DroopStreetOldBoys wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:32 am
Montag wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 pm
Believe what you like. I prefer facts to fiction.
Did you read the whole article?
I did. You have to remember that the NYT is not objective. It is populated with Dems and nobody else. They report reluctantly on these sort of stories. The fact is that even THEY had to report on this. Biden is the establishment candidate. The fact that a senile old man could have his hands on the greatest nuclear arsenal in history doesn't stop Wall street backing him. WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM?
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Re: Biden

Post by Esox Lucius » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:32 pm

Montag wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 am
DroopStreetOldBoys wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:32 am
Montag wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 pm
Believe what you like. I prefer facts to fiction.
Did you read the whole article?
I did. You have to remember that the NYT is not objective. It is populated with Dems and nobody else. They report reluctantly on these sort of stories. The fact is that even THEY had to report on this. Biden is the establishment candidate. The fact that a senile old man could have his hands on the greatest nuclear arsenal in history doesn't stop Wall street backing him. WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM?
As distinct from the Mango Maniac?
It's not the despair that will kill you, it's the hope.

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Re: Biden

Post by Montag » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:41 pm

Esox Lucius wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:32 pm
Montag wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 am
DroopStreetOldBoys wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:32 am


Did you read the whole article?
I did. You have to remember that the NYT is not objective. It is populated with Dems and nobody else. They report reluctantly on these sort of stories. The fact is that even THEY had to report on this. Biden is the establishment candidate. The fact that a senile old man could have his hands on the greatest nuclear arsenal in history doesn't stop Wall street backing him. WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM?
As distinct from the Mango Maniac?
How many wars has he started?
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Re: Biden

Post by Esox Lucius » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:44 am

Montag wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:41 pm
Esox Lucius wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:32 pm
Montag wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 am


I did. You have to remember that the NYT is not objective. It is populated with Dems and nobody else. They report reluctantly on these sort of stories. The fact is that even THEY had to report on this. Biden is the establishment candidate. The fact that a senile old man could have his hands on the greatest nuclear arsenal in history doesn't stop Wall street backing him. WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM?
As distinct from the Mango Maniac?
How many wars has he started?
How many penalties has he saved?
It's not the despair that will kill you, it's the hope.

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Re: Biden

Post by Montag » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:14 pm

Voter fraud, from the horses mouth:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0

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Re: Biden

Post by Montag » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:04 am

Esox Lucius wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:44 am
Montag wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:41 pm
Esox Lucius wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:32 pm

As distinct from the Mango Maniac?
How many wars has he started?
How many penalties has he saved?
How many have died from penalties? naughty
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