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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by Caroline » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:31 am

Don wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:17 am
In most sports there is the assumption that the men's game is the default, if not the 'proper' version. Football, women's football; rugby, women's rugby; cricket, women's cricket, etc. The only exception I can think of is hockey, men's hockey. And, boy, do some of them have to overcompensate.
I've always felt that about football / women's football! On the other hand, I think there's a conscious effort in some parts to move away from that. On the BBC web site, for example, on the main football page I saw a headline that said something else "Man City beat Arsenal" - which made no sense as the season had finished. Then I realised it was referring to the women's teams. The only give-away was "Women's Football" written in tiny letters underneath the headline. It's nice to see the national team called "England" and not England Ladies or England Women in the media.

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by Caroline » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:32 am

Don wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:14 am
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Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:01 am
Interesting thread...!

Westlondonlalala... I assume you have a remote control, and at least one hand free while you're watching?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: aniclap aniclap aniclap :lol: :lol: ouch!
Thanks Don! :)

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by westlondonlalala » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:42 am

Yep I've got both hands free when watching women's football, watching a bunch of dykes with full sleves run round chasing a ball like they've been drugged or shot doesn't float my boat.

I think you should refer to my original thread, I said women's sport is doing my nut in, especially the footy as it's a woefully poor standard.

I would encourage women disabled people any human being to take part in sport, they have just as much right as Men or professionals.

My gripe is televising it & portraying it to be anything more than a kick about down the park, it is a shocking standard & wouldn't make men's Sunday pub league level, I've just missed professional sport lately & all the women's shite that's been on got me down that's all, but please don't anyone accuse me of saying women shouldn't play sport or football because that's not what I said.

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by UxbridgeR » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:59 am

Criticizing the quality of the football is fair enough, calling all the women involved dykes and going on about how ugly they are somewhat less so.

Probably just "bants" though. :oops:

Why bother watching if it bothers you so much ?
Are headphones getting bigger, or are idiots getting smaller ?

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by Caroline » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:12 pm

westlondonlalala wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:42 am
My gripe is televising it & portraying it to be anything more than a kick about down the park, it is a shocking standard & wouldn't make men's Sunday pub league level, I've just missed professional sport lately & all the women's shite that's been on got me down that's all, but please don't anyone accuse me of saying women shouldn't play sport or football because that's not what I said.
Let's let the viewing figures be the judge of that? I don't understand why you're so bothered. It's like you begrudge women having the attention. So what if your pub team could beat them? Who cares, big deal. If you don't like watching women's football that's obviously fine, and not actually sexist in my opinion (although some of your remarks were), but I believe more and more people are enjoying it - nice to see it trending on twitter last night - so they must be doing something right.

Talking of televised sport though... I've always loved watching Wimbledon - both the mens and womens matches. But in the 90s the mens game was so dull - so many aces or short rallies. The womens game then was far more entertaining. Would Pete Sampras have beaten Steffi Graf? Undoubtedly. Which was better viewing? Steffi Graf etc in my opinion.

Finally... talking of mixed sports... we're getting closer to seeing a woman in the televised stages of the World Snooker Championships. No reason why a woman can't qualify - we just need the same opportunities. Hard to imagine parents devoting the same amount of time and money to a daughters snooker interest that they might to a sons, given the assumed long-term professional outlook career-wise for men, but I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by westlondonlalala » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:22 pm

UxbridgeR wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:59 am
Criticizing the quality of the football is fair enough, calling all the women involved dykes and going on about how ugly they are somewhat less so.

Probably just "bants" though. :oops:

Why bother watching if it bothers you so much ?
Course it's banter my sister is a rug muncher & takes it on the chin (banter that is)..

I don't watch it, I'll never watch it again even so In a moment of madness I put £100 on France to win the FLIPPING thing, listened to sum twat rant on how good they was so I backed the useless bastards before the tournament.

I was replying to Esox & everyone keeps telling me to not watch it if I don't like it, i don't watch it I'm replying to sum1s comments, it's odd people can differentiate between the two.

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by westlondonlalala » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:29 pm

Two things Caroline, if a dog took a luminouse pink crap with green spots on it, it would trend on Twitter so I wouldn't get to excited about women's football trending.

Second of all you are talking about women's tennis & snooker & women qualifying in the men's game, go for it let women join all men's sports do away with separate sex & combine the two, it would be the quickest way to extinct women from sport altogether u'd never see a female in sport again.

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by Caroline » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:43 pm

westlondonlalala wrote:
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Two things Caroline, if a dog took a luminouse pink crap with green spots on it, it would trend on Twitter so I wouldn't get to excited about women's football trending.

Second of all you are talking about women's tennis & snooker & women qualifying in the men's game, go for it let women join all men's sports do away with separate sex & combine the two, it would be the quickest way to extinct women from sport altogether u'd never see a female in sport again.
The irony is, I actually AGREED with you about the attractiveness of the women's game. Certainly 15 years ago I didn't enjoy watching it at all, but I personally am gradually finding it more gripping. And debating whether it's worthy of being shown on TV is interesting too. I believe it does deserve the attention, although England's first goal last night didn't do them any favours - have you seen it? But in other parts of the match there was some great movement and I genuinely enjoyed it. As for twitter... of course trending doesn't mean that the game is good, but it implies plenty of people were watching

You do realise that in snooker this year a woman (Reanne Evans) won her first round qualifying match for the world championship? She plays on the men's tour and was once ranked 85 in the world.

Also, why the constant references to sexuality? What's that got to do with it? Out of interest, how would you feel about a male player coming out? What if he played for QPR?

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by westlondonlalala » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:51 pm

My sister is gay, I haven't got a problem with gays in football I couldn't care less if Charlie Austin Luongo Smithies or the Pope was gay.

Caroline we have female refs in our league we see women's footy from time to time at games or tournaments the first thing said is bunch of dykes, maybe not PC but that's how it is banter blah blah blah.

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by SheepRanger » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:56 pm

Womens beach volleyball is fantasic.

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by westlondonlalala » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:03 pm

SheepRanger wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:56 pm
Womens beach volleyball is fantasic.
You damn right, it is basicly soft porn, the Brazil team are my favs they play the game with such Beauty :D

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by Caroline » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:07 pm

westlondonlalala wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:51 pm
My sister is gay, I haven't got a problem with gays in football I couldn't care less if Charlie Austin Luongo Smithies or the Pope was gay.

Caroline we have female refs in our league we see women's footy from time to time at games or tournaments the first thing said is bunch of dykes, maybe not PC but that's how it is banter blah blah blah.
Nothing wrong with a bit of well-meant bants! ;) Context is key though I think - slagging off the women's game AND calling them dykes is a bit cringey in my opinion. By the way, I didn't find your comments remotely offensive, but I just felt they detracted from what was an interesting point you were making!

By the way, the question about gay men in football was a genuine question, not a sarcastic remark - just so you know :)

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by westlondonlalala » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:17 pm

Caroline you sound sweet as a nut, I'm glad your chilled & on the level coz I wouldn't wana get into a debate about Politicly correct & offending people, I wouldn't even want to begin to have that debate with anyone.

Anyway I'm gutted there's no women's Euros on tonight :lol:

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by Caroline » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:43 pm

westlondonlalala wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:17 pm
Caroline you sound sweet as a nut, I'm glad your chilled & on the level coz I wouldn't wana get into a debate about Politicly correct & offending people, I wouldn't even want to begin to have that debate with anyone.
Hooray! Had enough of that recently! The new Doctor Who... apparently if you're a lifelong fan and don't like the casting that automatically makes you sexist. I don't care either way about the casting, but don't like people screaming sexism at every opportunity. It's more about fandom and fans not liking change I think. Same in football - how obsessed do we get about the thickness of the Hoops, or whether they go all the way around? Or the whole Jude / Spark thing mascot thing! The logo! Or poor Cardiff and their change of actual friggin' shirt colour! (the only time I've ever felt sorry for Cardiff!)
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Anyway I'm gutted there's no women's Euros on tonight :lol:
Nothing to moan about?! Will you be watching on Sunday? Rooting for England or France? Did you watch at all last night? I thought the goalkeeping mistake for England's first goal was embarrassing, but the strike was good. I thought the movement for Portugal's goal was good. And is there not at least one player you fancy, even a little bit?!

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Re: Women playing sport..

Post by westlondonlalala » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:10 pm

I won't watch again unless France reach the final & then I'll only be watching to cover my bet inplay.

& nah the England team aren't blessed with good looks tbh.

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